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zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 9:59:22 AM

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Good morning, i know all you guys have your choices in tires when it comes to trail/mudding. If i were to say these two are the only tire you could use on your quad what tire would you go with? bugs or zillas? i'm leaning towards the bugs as they have always been my favorit but let me know what u think

26x10-12 fr & 26x10-12 rear mudbugs or

26x11-12 fr & 26x11-12 rear zillas

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 12:44:22 PM

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on your 800 i think you should get the zillas, but get 27". they are 5lbs lighter than the bugs each!

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 1:17:53 PM

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I would get either 27 or 28 Zilla's

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 2:27:19 PM

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the 28 zillas have less lug than the 27s from what i have heard.

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 2:29:43 PM

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talkin mudzillas?

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 2:31:35 PM

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talkin mudzillas?

He said Zilla'.... not really sure though

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 3:28:34 PM

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If I ive ran both and 26 to 26 I would go with the Mudbugs, but if going with 27 or above get the Zillas. I love my Mudbugs and in 26" bugs will last alot longer IMO that the rest

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 3:31:01 PM

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i was talkin about the zilla, not the mudzilla. ill look up the specs real quick.

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 3:33:48 PM

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yeah, the 28's have 30/32 of an inch, and the 26-27" have 1.2 inches of tread.

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/8/2008 3:37:25 PM

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I did notice my 27's looked deeper than some 28 i seen..

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 1:04:04 AM

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no not mudzillas just zillas

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 1:09:59 AM

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quote:

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If I ive ran both and 26 to 26 I would go with the Mudbugs, but if going with 27 or above get the Zillas. I love my Mudbugs and in 26" bugs will last alot longer IMO that the rest

why do you say 26" bugs is it do to the fact that it has wider stronger lugs than the 27 & 28" bud bug tire? You see mudbugs is my favorit A/T tire i love this tire in the 26" mudbug but i never seen a zilla work. i wouldnt mind trying this tire out on trail,mud and snow. Do you think it would outperform the bugs in trail ,sand, mud or snow?

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 5:36:09 AM

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thats what i want to know! lol

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 10:46:41 AM

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lucky for you im going to buy them when i get back from my hunting trip

i should have them on in about 3 weeks

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 10:51:42 AM

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i guess we are conna have to compare them.

have you ever had a set of lites to compare them too?

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 10:56:38 AM

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i have tried swamp fox plus, outlaws, mudzillas, mudlights, stockers, mudbugs in all sizes, mst's, swamp lites, exectutioners and gators.

what my best tires are mudbugs, outlaws & gators so far hopefully the zillas do good.

heres a little video of zillas going threw on the can-am. 3rd bike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJRDS2AybmM

< Message edited by lips450 -- 11/9/2008 10:59:20 AM >

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:00:07 AM

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Get the Mudbugs my MudLites would outmud "zillas".. IMOP

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:03:22 AM

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quote:

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Get the Mudbugs my MudLites would outmud "zillas".. IMOP

ok seriously do you acually think the mudlights out performed the zillas? Not calling you a lie gwc but thats just ard to swallow. Also if you say the zillas arnt as good as the mudlights im not buying them cause i really hate the mudlights. i dont know i still might try the zillas maybe the guy you went up against couldnt drive?

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:13:54 AM

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Yeah i beleive that, not real impressed with Mudzillas or Zillas.

LOL i really cant say the Mudlites would out preform them I guess that would be a stretch..

A Vampire would be a better tire IMOP then Zillas and if i wanted a 26/27" good tire i would have Vampires or Tri/Bi Claws myself.

Does everyone in the vids you find ride WOT all the time in Mudholes..lol

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:37:59 AM

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Yeah i beleive that, not real impressed with Mudzillas or Zillas.
LOL i really cant say the Mudlites would out preform them I guess that would be a stretch..

A Vampire would be a better tire IMOP then Zillas and if i wanted a 26/27" good tire i would have Vampires or Tri/Bi Claws myself.

Does everyone in the vids you find ride WOT all the time in Mudholes..lol

ya it seems that way its hard to find a person an a can-am taking there time working the hole there always full throttle, canat say i blam them cause its hard to hold back, really hard but it has to be done

Those TRI/BI CLAWS are they a good tire probably heave though. You see remember that video i had that the 09 beat me in. Well he had 26" tires on & i had 28 also he had his exhaust and i didnt have mine do to hunting season. now i want to sell my 28msts to purchase a 26 like him but light for maximum pwer. the bug will do wonders but the zillas are even lighter and look to be just as good. I don't want to get killed like that last race evem though i did beat the other 2 renagades

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:48:41 AM

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So your wanting a Light weight tire.. Think i said that before..lol anyway those Zillas are entry level tires like Mudlites are.. LOL

yeah i think the claws are a heavyer tire, but its hard to find a real light tire that gets real good traction in mud that why i went with alot of GC and light weight when i got the 30s.
I have a set of 26" 589MTs that i was going to run but crap i think they are heavyer then my 30" mls and dont offer any better traction and are 4" shorter.

Yeah i have a hard time just nailing the throttle and blasting threw stuff as i am so use to riding with my Laws on and they dont work best like that. I allways have let the tire do the work instead of just useing High tire speed.

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:55:02 AM

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i have new 28" outlaws on 212 rims so i dont really need a good mud tire. I just need something for trial and the mudholes i come accross, ok you got me we go out of our way to find

I know for a fact for my type of riding that the mudbugs to best for me but everyone here has bugs on as they coped us. That being said id like to try a new tire thinking the entry level zillas lol . i hope to god there alot stronger than mudlights cause that tire is a waist of rubber imo

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 12:01:53 PM

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LOL i bet the zillas would get a flat way before the mudlites would, i also bet the mudlites will work far better in sand as well, I bet the mudlites out climb them as well, and in mud i bet they are very close just depending on the mud type and all. and the zillas run short in size as well.
the tread pattern on the zillas is not a real good one for climbing or sand that is very easy to see with them.

I vote for the MudBugs out of those 2.

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 2:46:26 PM

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well, in about a week, we will know how they compare cause ive got a set of 27" zilla's ordered. the main reason that i got the zilla, was because of how light it is compared to other tires that are the same size or smaller! we will soon find out how they compare.

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 2:50:04 PM

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One reason they are so much lighter is they are so much smaller besides have real thin side walls, i have read alot that 27" zillas are just barely 26" tall so if you compare the weight of them to a 26" tire they are not that much lighter really.

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 3:47:51 PM

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oh well, if thats true, that means that i will have a little bit more power.

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front diff, finally got it moving again on april 17th
85 yamaha tri-moto 200: LONG GONE, but not forgotten

Quote from J_Fred
"I don't get stuck, I just lose traction and stop moving".

(in reply to GWC)

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:15:02 PM

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quote:

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oh well, if thats true, that means that i will have a little bit more power.

im leaving on a hunting trip when i get back i hope to see a post from ya on how they were, i dont know my loved mudbugs or a new zilla?

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dynojet power commander, skid plates
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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/9/2008 11:17:22 PM

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LOL i bet the zillas would get a flat way before the mudlites would, i also bet the mudlites will work far better in sand as well, I bet the mudlites out climb them as well, and in mud i bet they are very close just depending on the mud type and all. and the zillas run short in size as well.
the tread pattern on the zillas is not a real good one for climbing or sand that is very easy to see with them.

I vote for the MudBugs out of those 2.

Well i cant see it being a bad tire and really cant see it being less puncture resistant than a mudlight cause maxxis made it. There a known for bullet proof tires, mudzilla and bugs

I hope this guy does a video so i can see how they performed or i'll just stick with mudbugs

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RE: zillas or mudbugs - 11/10/2008 5:58:33 AM

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ill get some video for ya.

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