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will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 1:16:44 PM

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i have a 07 rincon with 27'' laws on it now but i also have a set of skinny 29.5s and want to put them on it Will the rincon turn them with a gear reduction pipe and programer it is hinda sluggish of idle with the 27s now just wandering if the gear reduction is worth the money Im going with the pc programer and hmf pipe for shore any of u guys running tihis combo let me no how it pulls please

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 1:27:00 PM

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Gear reduction is something you are going to want with 29.5's, for sure!

27" is about the biggest tire a rincon will handle happily with the bike being in mostly stock form.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 1:40:45 PM

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I second that... I have 27's on mine and its all she can handle

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 2:11:08 PM

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For 29.5's you will need the gear reduction, pipe, air filter, and EFI tuner. I also recommend a 702cc BBK and a Mudbuster hotcam to help get them turning. If it still doesn't handle the 29.5 well you can throw the 27's back on it and it'll be a rocket.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 8:02:42 PM

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not a good question to ask on this forum....

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 8:04:18 PM

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not a good question to ask on this forum....

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 8:04:44 PM

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dude...yes you can pullem.....easily!!!! In trailor behind you.....lmao

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 9:39:20 PM

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ur tellin me a rincon 700 cant spin 29.5's but a suzuki 500 can with just jets and a pipe?

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 9:47:04 PM

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The gear reduction makes a worold of difference i would at least do that if not all.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 9:50:26 PM

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Guys I am looking to put some tires on my 2005 650 Rincon,, I have just installed a RD 2" lift on it,, and I was wanting to take the stock tires off(they are 25x8x12 and 25x10x12),, I was wanting to put some 27x10x12 front and 27x12x12 rear swamplites on there,,, but would it spin them alright in stock form,, or would I need to just jump up to 26's,,, and just for FYI,,, I ride 80% trail and 20% mud or wet areas

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/23/2008 10:51:03 PM

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i have 28's outlaws on mine and i spin the crap out of them

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/24/2008 11:33:29 AM

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ur tellin me a rincon 700 cant spin 29.5's but a suzuki 500 can with just jets and a pipe?

gearing makes a difference!

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/26/2008 1:53:02 PM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 7:54:50 AM

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it all depends on conditions of riding,and some bike seem to havee a little more ba***!

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 8:21:18 AM

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alright guys i have a rincon at my house along with my grizz 450 and can am 800 i`ll take the 29.5`s off my grizz and put em on the rinny today and see if it has any major issues...

personally i think it will pull them...

I have a grizz 450 on 29.5`s...

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 8:35:20 AM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

i ride with a 680 rincon that has 29.5 10's and 12's. with no low gear it does struggle. he is having a lot of issues with axles coming out now also. no doubt u can ride around on it but it does struggle. with some major mods it could turn them fairly well. but that's my personal experience

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 9:33:49 AM

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My best friend has a rincon with 28 outlaws it would bog down in the thick stuff so we big bored it with a web cam jet kit pipe. then it would spin them like crazy 16 miles later it craped out the torqe converter and the tranny. its apart and hes looking at a big expense to put it back together. In my opinion its not worth it stick with 27s that you know it will turn good

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 9:56:22 AM

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i just dont understand why honda dont have a reality check and upgrade!

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 10:00:58 AM

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It really dont matter the size of the engine, its all in the gearing. I have a 650 rincon with a gear reduction, ported and polished head, jet kit and pipe with 29.5 outlaws and it does great. My dad has a honda 300 4x4 that is bored .75 over with a jet kit and pipe and he spins the 29.5s good also.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 11:38:38 AM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

don't compare your perception of what constitutes "turning a tire" with mine. if i jack the bike up and put it in neutral it will turn anything. you can't pull them slow so that leaves you with hitting holes with speed running wot. it's not a question of "power" but rather all gearing. the rincon was not designed to pull these big tires, so what is there to gain from taking it out of it's element by doing so? if you think that a rincon can swing 29.5's the i have a 650 outty you need to follow in said rincon. no comparison in water, mud, peanut butter, pits, hardpack, etc...... so how can you really make the claim that it's even "turning" them. yeah, and you know what i am biased................i have one of the baddest bikes on the planet!

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 12:20:32 PM

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It really dont matter the size of the engine, its all in the gearing. I have a 650 rincon with a gear reduction, ported and polished head, jet kit and pipe with 29.5 outlaws and it does great. My dad has a honda 300 4x4 that is bored .75 over with a jet kit and pipe and he spins the 29.5s good also.

My definition of spinning them and your must be different. My rancher was big bored had a jet kit ids pipe clutch kit web cam k&n airfilter and it wouldnt turn 28s it did ok with 27s . the rancher was alot stronger than my 300 its hard to belive a 300 is turning 29.5s in a thick mud.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 4:17:34 PM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

don't compare your perception of what constitutes "turning a tire" with mine. if i jack the bike up and put it in neutral it will turn anything. you can't pull them slow so that leaves you with hitting holes with speed running wot. it's not a question of "power" but rather all gearing. the rincon was not designed to pull these big tires, so what is there to gain from taking it out of it's element by doing so? if you think that a rincon can swing 29.5's the i have a 650 outty you need to follow in said rincon. no comparison in water, mud, peanut butter, pits, hardpack, etc...... so how can you really make the claim that it's even "turning" them. yeah, and you know what i am biased................i have one of the baddest bikes on the planet!

I don't think it would turn anything in neutral.....

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 4:48:55 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA NO. i had a honda 400 at and it struggled with 26 inch 589s and if i am correct the rinnys have the same type of transmission

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 5:47:57 PM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

don't compare your perception of what constitutes "turning a tire" with mine. if i jack the bike up and put it in neutral it will turn anything. you can't pull them slow so that leaves you with hitting holes with speed running wot. it's not a question of "power" but rather all gearing. the rincon was not designed to pull these big tires, so what is there to gain from taking it out of it's element by doing so? if you think that a rincon can swing 29.5's the i have a 650 outty you need to follow in said rincon. no comparison in water, mud, peanut butter, pits, hardpack, etc...... so how can you really make the claim that it's even "turning" them. yeah, and you know what i am biased................i have one of the baddest bikes on the planet!

I don't think it would turn anything in neutral.....

now you get the idea.................

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 5:50:12 PM

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I put my 29 fives on my friends rincon and rode it today....

it did alright until i hit mud....

but you can trail it....

but what fun is that?

Its alright once you get moving but off the line it blows

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 5:50:39 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA NO. i had a honda 400 at and it struggled with 26 inch 589s and if i am correct the rinnys have the same type of transmission

Your not correct. 400AT has the Hondamatic, totally different transmission, its very similar to the Rubicon transmission, but it lacks the low range, the Rincon has a 3 speed automotive style transmission w/ a torque converter. If your 400AT only struggled with 26" tires you were doing pretty good.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 5:56:18 PM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA NO. i had a honda 400 at and it struggled with 26 inch 589s and if i am correct the rinnys have the same type of transmission

No not exactly, the 400AT and the Rubicons have the same type trannys. The Rinny has a automotive style 3sp auto trans with a torque converter, as said the Rinny is a badas trail bike but it is not a good mud bike with the gearing as high as it is.

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i just dont understand why honda dont have a reality check and upgrade!

Because they sell just fine like they are, according to their sales numbers the Rinny is designed just fine. The vast majority of atv riders are trail riders that will NOT go in search of mud, the mudders market is considered a niche market and does not warrant them making a bike for it or performing a major overhaul on a very good bike already. Its for the same reason when Honda built the new 420AT they gave it higher gearing, so it would be better on trails where they want it to stay, even though if they had put at least as low of a gear as is in the regular 420 the new IRS Rancher would be a beast in the mud in the midsize market.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 6:00:50 PM

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see all the bias Yamaha,Kawi,Suzuki,Can-am,Arctic Cat, ect fans that act as if they were 12 say no it will never even budge them don't have any clue what they are talking about. If you ride in nothing but the peanut butter clay then no a rincon won't turn 29.5s with a gr and pipe, air filter, EFI tuner. But a person that rides in mud, water,and loose clay can turn them great and never have any problems. It is very ignorant how people act so imature because of their biased opinions.

don't compare your perception of what constitutes "turning a tire" with mine. if i jack the bike up and put it in neutral it will turn anything. you can't pull them slow so that leaves you with hitting holes with speed running wot. it's not a question of "power" but rather all gearing. the rincon was not designed to pull these big tires, so what is there to gain from taking it out of it's element by doing so? if you think that a rincon can swing 29.5's the i have a 650 outty you need to follow in said rincon. no comparison in water, mud, peanut butter, pits, hardpack, etc...... so how can you really make the claim that it's even "turning" them. yeah, and you know what i am biased................i have one of the baddest bikes on the planet!

I don't think it would turn anything in neutral.....

now you get the idea.................

No, now I'm confused.

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 7:17:10 PM

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RE: will 680 rincon pull 29.5's - 11/28/2008 9:02:52 PM

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Mac I think he means its not gonna do anything either way

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