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wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 11:41:41 AM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		i am thinking  about sell my laws and gettin 27x12x12 vamps all the way around

what is yalls input on that?

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 11:43:08 AM   
gmcz71


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Status: offline 		Id do it.  IMO, your 26x12 Laws look rediciously wide and flat.
the Vamps will bite and climb much better but wont paddle as good in the soupy stuff.

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 11:48:00 AM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		i just think it looks mean
i quad with wide vamps all the way around
once i get some money i will probably do it
i found some for 399 for free shipping

any cheaper ones?

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some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
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HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 12:00:19 PM   
superz


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Status: offline 		i got mine straight from interco for 332.00 +38.00 shipping they are alittle wider than the laws they ride like stock tires and the performance is equal to the laws

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 12:49:06 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		alright guys thanks
if anyone wants pretty much brand new 26x12x12 laws

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homemade tunes w/ipod
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HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 12:50:40 PM   
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 12:58:23 PM   
bear09


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Status: offline 		man i run 27 12 vamps on my bear and i have no complaints!! my ole bear will get it in whatever i put it through... i ran 28 10.5 and 28 12.5 laws for a while and my vamps perform jus as good as my old laws did... and the vamps aren't that heavy either 

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 1:02:33 PM   
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 1:26:29 PM   
r_sikes


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Status: offline 		laws will eat vamps ive seen it time and time again lucky i dont have a vid!


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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 1:42:35 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		did anyone else see that video
where a can am 800 had 29.5 laws
and a honda 300 had 27x12 vampires
and i am pretty sure the one with laws was struggling
the one with vamps did it with ease
so until you have a video proving that "laws will eat vampiers alive"

i wont belive it

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homemade tunes w/ipod
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soon to come:
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 1:55:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		I might be interested in 2 of your laws, how much would you want for em?

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 2:03:33 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		Get laws.You might need a few more mods than what is in your sig to spin them,thats alot of tire....

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 2:24:48 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		i already have laws
and it spins them great
but i want a bigger size


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26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel



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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 2:26:24 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel



"its always best to get out while your on top"

"even a broken clock is right twice a day"

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 2:28:06 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		27/12's are ALOT bigger than 26's.It will take aLOT more to spin them.You might spin 26's well,but them 27/12/12's are ALOT to spin,even with your HMF and air filter,you might be talkin gear reduction to spin those WELL.........

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 2:29:11 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		clutch kit if that
and i have an optimizer to
i forgot to put it in my signature


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2008 honda 420 rancher fi
26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel



"its always best to get out while your on top"

"even a broken clock is right twice a day"

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 3:29:23 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		Oh,then you might have a chance.If you keep it out of the REAL BAD PB mud,you should be fine im guesssing.....

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 3:42:38 PM   
mark_cotton


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Status: offline 		im wanting to rune 27/12 vamps on my bigbear too..does anyone know if they make a gear reduction for the 2008 model bigbear?

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 3:44:13 PM   
B.W.L 500


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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 4:35:54 PM   
htownmudder


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Status: offline 		Get vamps.They have the floatation of a wide tire and they can dig you out of stuff.

27-12 vamps on all 4s is better than the laws(only if the laws are 27-12 in the rear and 27-9.5 in the front)

The 27-12 vamps are easier to spin in thick stuff compared to the 27-12 laws.

Go Vamps.Nuff said.

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 4:40:14 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		Man,vamps dont compare to laws,that shouldnt even be a question,get laws....................

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 4:59:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		 I beg to differ. I currently own both, so I think I have a good idea on how each perform. Bottomline, the 27x12 Vampires will go every bit as good as the 27" or 28" Outlaws and they climb out of holes better. They will also ride way better than any size Outlaw, last longer, weigh less and are cheaper to boot. The only place that the Laws have outperformed the Vamps is in deep water. I haven't even experienced them outperform the Vamps in ruts after countless hours and miles of mudholes. Not to say the Outlaws aren't great tires. They definitely are or I wouldn't own 3 sets of them! But for someone to say that they "don't compare to laws" is absurd. That 420 will pull the 27x12 Vamps about as good as it pulls the 26" Laws. If you're pulling the 26 Laws good, no changes will need to be made to pull the 27x12 Vamps. Take it from someone who has experience with both, get the Vamps.

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 5:13:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I can run circles around them vampires with my 589's,and ive done it too......where a big bear with some 27" vampires got stuck i passed with my 26" 589's with 200 lbs on my bike.,heck I even backed up through what he couldnt pass through,and it was in some nasty pb mud......


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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 5:26:46 PM   
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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 8:28:00 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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quote:

ORIGINAL: B.W.L 500

I can run circles around them vampires with my 589's,and ive done it too......where a big bear with some 27" vampires got stuck i passed with my 26" 589's with 200 lbs on my bike.,heck I even backed up through what he couldnt pass through,and it was in some nasty pb mud......



ha
i highly doubt that


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2008 honda 420 rancher fi
26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel



"its always best to get out while your on top"

"even a broken clock is right twice a day"

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 8:31:23 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		Good luck....

And speaking of which,I got a longer story to that big bear im not gonna say,unless you wanna know,than im me.......

< Message edited by B.W.L 500 -- 8/23/2008 8:41:12 PM >

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 8:33:27 PM   
blacknbeastly420


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Status: offline 		i could care less
i am gettin the wide vamps
thanks guys
my laws are for sale
if you want pics
PM me

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2008 honda 420 rancher fi
26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel



"its always best to get out while your on top"

"even a broken clock is right twice a day"

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 9:08:06 PM   
superz


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quote:

ORIGINAL: CRSBear400

 I beg to differ. I currently own both, so I think I have a good idea on how each perform. Bottomline, the 27x12 Vampires will go every bit as good as the 27" or 28" Outlaws and they climb out of holes better. They will also ride way better than any size Outlaw, last longer, weigh less and are cheaper to boot. The only place that the Laws have outperformed the Vamps is in deep water. I haven't even experienced them outperform the Vamps in ruts after countless hours and miles of mudholes. Not to say the Outlaws aren't great tires. They definitely are or I wouldn't own 3 sets of them! But for someone to say that they "don't compare to laws" is absurd. That 420 will pull the 27x12 Vamps about as good as it pulls the 26" Laws. If you're pulling the 26 Laws good, no changes will need to be made to pull the 27x12 Vamps. Take it from someone who has experience with both, get the Vamps.
listen to what cale posts he knows his stuff yes the vamps will perform equal or better than laws ive had them both also

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 9:36:09 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: B.W.L 500

I can run circles around them vampires with my 589's,and ive done it too......where a big bear with some 27" vampires got stuck i passed with my 26" 589's with 200 lbs on my bike.,heck I even backed up through what he couldnt pass through,and it was in some nasty pb mud......



sorry, but im callin bull crap on your little story here.  the vamps WILL keep up with laws or surpass them in all situations except for deep water.  just as cale said.  he knows his stuff inside and out. 

and i really hope you are not comparing 589s to either vamps or outlaws because they are more of an all-terrain tire.  just take what people who have experience say.  and dont shoot down everyone's word.  all that'll do is get you unliked.

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 10:06:20 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		im not comparing them to outlaws,im saying my 589's WILL pass vampires.Its all true,ive done it,belive it or not,dont really care.......

And,actually,I can compare my 589's to outlaws,but im not gonna ay that story,because yall would call straight BS,and i dont feel like wasting my time.......

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