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water wheelie - 11/8/2008 1:40:06 AM

MudZukin

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I tried to do a water wheelie today in the river, but it wouldn't do it. I would get pretty deep and stand on the back bars and then when I try to pop the front up it just spins the back tires. What could i try doing to get it to do a water wheelie?

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 2:07:38 AM

Jared94chevy

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get rid of the POS mud lites and put a pair of laws on her, she will stand straight up

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 6:30:28 AM

BlackVinson07

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My wife can do water wheelies on here eiger with MSTs without pulling on the bars(she is still kinda scarde to go over backwards). Water Wheelies are all about traction and flotation! Without them(Mudlights are most of your problem) all you will get is a nose down underwater burnout!

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 12:26:17 PM

MudZukin

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The only reason I got the mud lites is because I got the set for $75, if I were going to buy a new set of tires they would probably be my last choice.

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Air ride double gun rack
Mad Dog rack bag
Warn 2500 winch
Custom snorkel
27 mud lites
Uni Filter

Under construction:
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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 12:49:26 PM

BrokenKitty

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Well its kind of hard to waterwheelie i non snorkeld quad . The deeper you go the easyer it is and plus mudlites aint on the top waterwheeling tires to say .

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- Radiator on top of the rack
- Epi white spring and shimmed primary with dalton rollers
- Hmf pipe with k&n filter and jetted
- Arcticcat front and rear brush guards and handle guards
- Exhaust snorkel de attachable
- Camo seat and black cargo bag
- Gorilla 3000 winch 4th winch ..yup
- running 21"s of g/c

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 1:26:00 PM

MudZukin

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I had water coming over the headlights at one time. I just wanted to see if it would do one, but i reckon not.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 2:28:35 PM

Freestyle

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It has NOTHING to do ith Mud lites!!! You need to have the water up to the racks then it will come up!!!

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 3:25:52 PM

BrokenKitty

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It does for me to say...Ive been in the same places with my mudlites and ive have to try harder where i had on my laws with no body english almost stand it on the rack with the laws ....

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PINNEN AINT EASY....

------ 07 650 h1-------
- 32 " silverbacks on ITP type 7s black
- 2.5 " Bnj lift on Highlifter springs
- Snorkels way over the handle bars
- Radiator on top of the rack
- Epi white spring and shimmed primary with dalton rollers
- Hmf pipe with k&n filter and jetted
- Arcticcat front and rear brush guards and handle guards
- Exhaust snorkel de attachable
- Camo seat and black cargo bag
- Gorilla 3000 winch 4th winch ..yup
- running 21"s of g/c

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 3:47:52 PM

700Blaze

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You can do water wheelies all day with mudlights if your in deep enough water

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 4:23:57 PM

BrokenKitty

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quote:

You can do water wheelies all day with mudlights if your in deep enough water

Yup if your deep enough thats what i was trying to say above .

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PINNEN AINT EASY....

------ 07 650 h1-------
- 32 " silverbacks on ITP type 7s black
- 2.5 " Bnj lift on Highlifter springs
- Snorkels way over the handle bars
- Radiator on top of the rack
- Epi white spring and shimmed primary with dalton rollers
- Hmf pipe with k&n filter and jetted
- Arcticcat front and rear brush guards and handle guards
- Exhaust snorkel de attachable
- Camo seat and black cargo bag
- Gorilla 3000 winch 4th winch ..yup
- running 21"s of g/c

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 6:09:59 PM

REDNECK0731

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IT IS NOT THE MUDLITES WHEN I STARTED RIDING IN THE WATER IT TOOK ME FOREVER TO GET IT TO WHEELIE NOW MY SPORTSMAN, GRIZZLY, AND MY BUDDYS HONDA NO PROBLEM NONE OF THESE HAVE LAWS

IT IS WEIGHT TRANSFUR AND THROTTLE CONTROLE MOST OF ALL PRACTIES

TWO OF MY BUDDYS HAS MUDLITES AND BOTH HAVE ON PROBLEM WITH WATER WHEELIES

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 6:24:32 PM

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I have stock tires on my king and I have water wheelied the few times I have been deep enough. I find I have to be up to the racks to get it to come up. Since I am not snorkled have only done this on short distant water crossings. You perhaps weren't quite deep enough to allow for flotation.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 8:29:34 PM

speedy81304

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my wife can water wheelie her little polaris hawkeye 300 4wd, with 25" mudlights. just need to get some wt on the back tires and hold it WFO.

the mudlights are not the problem. its the rider. lol

my wife does it by stopping and then putting wt on the back of the machine then punching it WFO and leaning back. if she can do. then anyone can do it as her machine is not the strongest machine out there.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/8/2008 9:03:29 PM

Freestyle

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Exactly right!!!

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RE: water wheelie - 11/9/2008 7:44:10 AM

BrokenKitty

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Well for ME im only 130 lbs not much weight on there to wheelie and weight trans , But it has been harder for me to get the front end up if im not as deep but when the laws half my tire i can stand it up as for the mudlites i had to be a little over my rack to get her going good .

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PINNEN AINT EASY....

------ 07 650 h1-------
- 32 " silverbacks on ITP type 7s black
- 2.5 " Bnj lift on Highlifter springs
- Snorkels way over the handle bars
- Radiator on top of the rack
- Epi white spring and shimmed primary with dalton rollers
- Hmf pipe with k&n filter and jetted
- Arcticcat front and rear brush guards and handle guards
- Exhaust snorkel de attachable
- Camo seat and black cargo bag
- Gorilla 3000 winch 4th winch ..yup
- running 21"s of g/c

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RE: water wheelie - 11/9/2008 8:55:10 AM

Freestyle

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Ok well if ur gonna argue just go buy some LAWS!!!

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Twin Air Filter
Full Custom Snorkle
Crankcase mod with Filter
Sealed Pull Start
Greased Shifter
Sealed display
Took spark arrester out
Warn XT 25 rope winch

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RE: water wheelie - 11/20/2008 10:15:30 AM

bckdrft75

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I can water wheelie on my wife's Ozark. It only has my stock 25" Grizzly tires on it. Deep enough water. Weight transfer. Throttle control. And pull up on the bars. I have no problem. Heck its easier with it than my Grizz. It just takes pratice.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/20/2008 5:03:30 PM

MudZukin

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I am going to snorkel the eiger in the next few weeks then I will try deeper, now I am comfortable to get the headlights under water with no problem. The weight transfer and throttle response thing is not the problem, I used to ride wheelies all the time. After I snorkel it I will try deeper.

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2004 Suzuki Eiger Auto 4x4
Advantage Max-4 HD camo
Air ride double gun rack
Mad Dog rack bag
Warn 2500 winch
Custom snorkel
27 mud lites
Uni Filter

Under construction:
1982 Toyota pickup 4x4
33x14 boggers

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RE: water wheelie - 11/20/2008 6:33:09 PM

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Are you getting any water in your belt housing at all? That could be a reason its not getting up.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/20/2008 6:44:05 PM

MudZukin

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bckdrft75

Are you getting any water in your belt housing at all? That could be a reason its not getting up.

Not that I can remember, I don't remember hearing the belt slip. Most of the time when the belt slips it will make a noise.

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2004 Suzuki Eiger Auto 4x4
Advantage Max-4 HD camo
Air ride double gun rack
Mad Dog rack bag
Warn 2500 winch
Custom snorkel
27 mud lites
Uni Filter

Under construction:
1982 Toyota pickup 4x4
33x14 boggers

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RE: water wheelie - 11/21/2008 7:41:00 AM

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One simple tool that might help you is to deflate a basketball/soccer ball, stuff it into the front of your quad and then air it back up. It looks kinda goofy, but it should help you.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/21/2008 8:06:30 AM

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Not always. When I first started with my Grizz I keep getting water in the housing. It took away from the power. But if you have water in your housing. It is an act of congress to get the front end up.

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RE: water wheelie - 11/21/2008 8:26:37 AM

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At first i couldnt get mine to pop up now i dont even have to stand on the racks anymore!!! the mudlites are not the problem i got Mud lite XTRs!!! Just let it get broke in first!! that is wat i had to do!!

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RE: water wheelie - 11/21/2008 2:52:27 PM

MudZukin

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quote:

ORIGINAL: bckdrft75

Not always. When I first started with my Grizz I keep getting water in the housing. It took away from the power. But if you have water in your housing. It is an act of congress to get the front end up.

speaking of water in the housing the river level was a little higher today when I went and I got water in the belt housing. I had to get pulled back to the house. Now I'm going to lowes to buy some stuff to snorkel my eiger.

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2004 Suzuki Eiger Auto 4x4
Advantage Max-4 HD camo
Air ride double gun rack
Mad Dog rack bag
Warn 2500 winch
Custom snorkel
27 mud lites
Uni Filter

Under construction:
1982 Toyota pickup 4x4
33x14 boggers

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RE: water wheelie - 12/5/2008 1:24:14 AM

TxEiger

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get rid of the mudlights for a heavier tire with low air in it, and get a snorkel which you really really need if your gonna be in water a lot

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RE: water wheelie - 12/5/2008 8:09:21 AM

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ive been able to stand mine up in the water real easy but once i put the winch on i had to put more air in the front tires to get it to stand up but i can still do it with but i have to wait til the rack goes under before it will lift but im running laws on mine

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RE: water wheelie - 12/5/2008 4:56:34 PM

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mine did it just fine with the xtr's. 7PSI in the front and 5 in the rears. with my laws i ran 10 up front and 7 rear and i couldnt keep the front end down!

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RE: water wheelie - 12/14/2008 11:37:42 AM

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The river level went up to were I could get deep enough to wheelie, here's a pic

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Air ride double gun rack
Mad Dog rack bag
Warn 2500 winch
Custom snorkel
27 mud lites
Uni Filter

Under construction:
1982 Toyota pickup 4x4
33x14 boggers

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RE: water wheelie - 12/14/2008 2:05:36 PM

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I can water wheelie a Recon on stock tires in Floorboard deep water!!!!!!!!!!

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