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want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 7:08:47 AM

bcom

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Im going to replace my 25" Mud Lite at's with 26" something? What tire do you recommend for all condition trail riding and fairly smooth ride on pavement.Mud,dirt,hills,rocks,pavement,grass,snow,sometimes deep snow for plowing and ice.My Mud Lites didnt do too bad in any of the conditions but i have nothing to compare them too since they are the first tires ive ever bought.Am i missing out on something better?

What do you recommend?

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 7:55:31 AM

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I had 27" tri and bi claws on my grizz and it did fine. They are light and ride good and do pretty good in all terrian.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 10:43:16 AM

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Almost any tire you can name will fail to perform very well in at least some of the applications you ask about. Our MST Outlaw however, will do all of these fairly decent and most extremely well. Zillas, Mud Lites, Mud Bugs, Gators, Big Horns, 589's, Swamp Witches, Bear Claws, Bi/Tri Claws, Dirt Devils, etc., etc. all lack certain features that turn into enough solid benefits to be a true and honest all-terrain tire for the completely vaired terrain you have.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 10:51:22 AM

bcom

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I have seen the Outlaw Mst tires on the website.They look very impressive but what exactly is the tread depth on these?They are pretty pricey as well compared to others.Are they really that much better for the price?

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 10:51:37 AM

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MST's or XTR's

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 10:55:29 AM

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bi tris,MST's, XTR's

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 11:14:23 AM

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There are two discount programs available to help reduce the price. You can call me at (800) 699-0947, ext. 2010 to talk about your tires and pricing. IMHO, they are that much better than other tires for what you do. The lugs are one inch and wrap two inches down the sidewall allowing the tire to perform as if the lugs were a little taller. It also has a flat radial type profile, getting all of the tread to the surface for improved traction regardless of the terrain. The MST will wear like iron and outlast a lot of tires. That means your cost per riding days is a very little sum of money more than a cheaper lower performing tire. Here's my thoughts for what ever they might be worth to you. Tires are the absolute most important thing you can spend your hard earned money on. Why not buy the best one for your needs if at all possible. Everytime you go to ride, you do not need to regret you bought a lesser performing tire than you could have to save a few upfront dollars. That's buyers remorse to the max. Think long life, great performance and that will equal a smart tire choice. Again, please call me if you would like some help. Thanks !!!!

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 11:20:26 AM

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Totally agreed with you BUSHHOG.I have the primary out of my quad right now and hopefully i'll have my parts in this weekend to fix it.I am wanting some new tires in the very near future.If you can,send me an email and let me know what kinda of deal you can give me on some 26's up front and back of my Grizz with the stock 12" wheel.Shipped to Ohio.If not i may call in the near future.Thanks.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 11:20:38 AM

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i have compaired bi/tri's to mst, xtr, mudlite, 589 and vamps side by side. the mst's were on nearly the exact machine(arctic cats, one 650 h-1, the other 700). all others were on hondas. the only tire that could touch the bi/tri's in mud is the vamps. they all did a little better in trials, by that i mean they would slide a bit in off camber on loose leave coverd hills. but its not detrimental. the downfall it the climbing ability of the tri's, they dont do very well in that area, prolly the worst of the ones listed. vamps on the other hand will climb a tree. and keep in mind, the bi/tri's and vamps are "mud" tires that do very well on trails and hard surfaces,( i have about 900 miles on my bi/tri's and only the tips are rounded a bit, i would say 95% tread left, with more pavment riding then most as i live in the country on the hiway). the other tires are trail tires/allterrain, that do OK in mud. i said all that to say this, the bi/tri's and vamps are mudders that will walk the others in anything but hardpack, while the others edge them out on hardpack. my opinion is the trail tires are better than the mudders in hardpack, but just by a small margin, in certain caonditions, while anything that involves something other than hard ground the 2 mudders are light years ahead. with that said, my advice would be look into the vamps and bi/tri's. vamps climb great, but the bi/tri's float better. both need a little seat time to learn what works best. if i were to go with something other than the mudders, it would prolly be xtr's.

although i have been told the 12" wide vamps float OK, that may be an option, 12's all around.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 12:22:05 PM

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mr. Potato head you must not have really looked at ALL he was asking a tire to do for him. Otherwise you would have noted that the tires you talk about do in fact lack several features that will eliminate them from his overall consideration. Vamps and Bi/Tri's will not find much traction on hard slick rocks, let alone ice. They are also a poor choice for plowing snow. Nor do they do handle great at high speed 2wd trail riding. Only the XTR's are anywhere close to the proper tire for HIS applications. You might note I did not list it as a tire not to consider. The reason I did not list it is because it is more money and weighs a little more per tire than the MST and has no additional features over the MST. But of all the tires on the market, only the MST and XTR truly quailify to solve his needs the best. BTW, I do not intend to get into a long discussion/argument with you as I have in the past. So, I have said my say and I am out of this thread.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 9/30/2008 8:35:41 PM

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i will tell you this. when i bought my 700 efi (the one potatoe head is talking about) i left the stock tires at the dealer. and had them put on 26" mst. i should have keep the stock tires. the only thing i can say is that they ride smooth. after that all my opinions on the mst are negative. i got rid of those tires very quick. i even got people mad because i was knocking the mst.

but i can tell you, i will never in my life own another set of mst's. they seem to be pushed on people (so to say) because this is highlifter site. you ask for opions and thats mine. my opinion is go withe the XTR's and think about the 27" xtr's you have the power to turn them. the xtr's wear great and preform well in all areas.

now people are going to start sending me pm's about why i think they are so bad.

i have all more to say about the mst (not good) but call me on my cell at 254 747 2633 and ill tell you what i really think of the mst's...cal me i dont mind at all. ill spend a little time so your not unhappy

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 6:52:57 AM

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Everyone has some good opinions here.No need to start a cat fight guys.Just as BUSHHOG said 1 tire aint gonna perform well in all conditions.I just want to hear what people have experienced and what type of conditions they were in and what they were running.

I really dont think there can be a wrong answer if youve experienced it and answered honestly.More opinions would be great.

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Dayco belt explodes in Grizz video

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 8:17:23 AM

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its not what he's on this thread its what been said in other threads, and on the phone.

he told me on the phone that the mst's will not perform as well as the xtr's.

if you are truely looking for a all around tire the xtr will be the best tire for you. hands down

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 11:13:42 AM

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I've never had or riden on a set of MSTs but I have riden on a set of XTRs and I liked them a lot. They rode very smooth, had good traction in the sand and pretty good in the mud, they didnt have much of a problem climbing the hills at the sand pit I ride at, and they seemed to be a hard rubber for good wear, I have heard from others that they wear far better then the Mudlites.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 11:44:56 AM

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Here is a partial list of what a few folks had to say about the MST. Some of these people give very in-depth tire reports on this tire. Please read and draw your own conclusions. The forum members are: sawhead, Mudcon, freetrapper, vt04grizz, Crkaminer, chevync20, GreatWhiteNorth, Ruttratt, jsk_33 and dbmachine. However, the most telling information about this tire is we sold them to Arctic Cat for their new Mud Pro ATV. They loved our tire. We had to please their lawyers, marketing people, tire engineers and their sales management people. They could have bought a number of up graded tires to include the XTR, but chose to buy ours.

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 1:03:33 PM

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Well put bushhog. Long-live HL

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RE: want to help me pick out a tire for my 660 Grizz - 10/1/2008 3:43:23 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: BUSHHOG

Here is a partial list of what a few folks had to say about the MST. Some of these people give very in-depth tire reports on this tire. Please read and draw your own conclusions. The forum members are: sawhead, Mudcon, freetrapper, vt04grizz, Crkaminer, chevync20, GreatWhiteNorth, Ruttratt, jsk_33 and dbmachine. However, the most telling information about this tire is we sold them to Arctic Cat for their new Mud Pro ATV. They loved our tire. We had to please their lawyers, marketing people, tire engineers and their sales management people. They could have bought a number of up graded tires to include the XTR, but chose to buy ours.

looks like you took my advice by giving him the names off the people that like the tires and let him make a decision for himself.

oh and i appreciate that smart *** pm you sent. notice i didnt respond to it. and now you do exactly what i said you should do.

please dont not send me anymore pm regaurding these tires. but if you need more advice call me my cell number listed above

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