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vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 1:44:16 AM

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I do alot of riding at red creek which is all hard bottom ruts. The outlaws do great getting me through the hole but I always have a problems getting out of the hole! Would a set of vamps. on the front solve this problem? What size would I need to get to match the 26x10 outlaws? Would the vampires in the front ride a little smoother?
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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 8:53:51 PM

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Come on I know someone has done this before..............any comments?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 9:11:30 PM

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i got a set of 28' vamp edls on front of my foreman 500 and ive never had a problem climbin outa nothin....them sucker will pull and it not rough at all...

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 9:15:35 PM

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quote:

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I do alot of riding at red creek which is all hard bottom ruts. The outlaws do great getting me through the hole but I always have a problems getting out of the hole! Would a set of vamps. on the front solve this problem? What size would I need to get to match the 26x10 outlaws? Would the vampires in the front ride a little smoother?
thanks

27x10 and yes, a whole lot smoother.

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 9:16:32 PM

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what size laws you got in the back?..

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 9:39:05 PM

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Come on I know someone has done this before..............any comments?

I have the whole setup forsale.

I have (2) 27x9x12 super swaper tsl vamps--BRAND NEW
(2) 27x12x12 Outlaws-- 85% tread
I will split tires

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 11:11:23 PM

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well if you were not in Mobile I would consider that but thats a little far to drive. So the vamps on the front will ride smoother and climb better then the laws will ?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 11:21:11 PM

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Might even try the 28x10 EDL's and keep them at a low PSI, I hear they only measure about 26.5" anyway...?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/1/2008 11:54:35 PM

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i have the 28x10 edls on the front of my foreman 500....i got 10 lbs of air and they honestly measure right over 28 n a quarter...they some dang good tires for pullin in climbiin

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/2/2008 3:52:59 PM

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i have the 28x10 edls on the front of my foreman 500....i got 10 lbs of air and they honestly measure right over 28 n a quarter...they some dang good tires for pullin in climbiin

Thats very fortunate that your getting those heights, even if they are American EDL's.

Every Mexican EDL I've seen was hard pressed to get to 27, and every USA EDL was in the 27.25 to 27.75(on a good day) range.

Expect any new EDL's to run about 26.5-27 depending on rim size and PSI... I will say that PSI doesn't have hardly any effect in these tires, as I have had one with 40 PSI (yes, 40) and another with about 4... the height difference was about a quarter of an inch. So don't expect to stretch the tires easily either.

To the original question, You would probably do better just to put a set of TSL 27x12 Vampires on the back and EDL's up front(even though there will be a slight height difference), as the 27x12 Vampires will do better in ruts than the 26x10 Laws (height and width advantage, sidelugs are negligible at that point), as well as being able to outperform even a comparable size Outlaw in any other situation.

However, if you prefer to keep the 26x10's, either a 27x10 Vampire or 28x10 EDL will match somewhat close to the Outlaw's height, assuming the Law is 26 inches tall.

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/2/2008 4:21:09 PM

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quote:

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quote:

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i have the 28x10 edls on the front of my foreman 500....i got 10 lbs of air and they honestly measure right over 28 n a quarter...they some dang good tires for pullin in climbiin

Thats very fortunate that your getting those heights, even if they are American EDL's.

Every Mexican EDL I've seen was hard pressed to get to 27, and every USA EDL was in the 27.25 to 27.75(on a good day) range.

Expect any new EDL's to run about 26.5-27 depending on rim size and PSI... I will say that PSI doesn't have hardly any effect in these tires, as I have had one with 40 PSI (yes, 40) and another with about 4... the height difference was about a quarter of an inch. So don't expect to stretch the tires easily either.

To the original question, You would probably do better just to put a set of TSL 27x12 Vampires on the back and EDL's up front(even though there will be a slight height difference), as the 27x12 Vampires will do better in ruts than the 26x10 Laws (height and width advantage, sidelugs are negligible at that point), as well as being able to outperform even a comparable size Outlaw in any other situation.

However, if you prefer to keep the 26x10's, either a 27x10 Vampire or 28x10 EDL will match somewhat close to the Outlaw's height, assuming the Law is 26 inches tall.

i have the 27x12 tsl vamps on the back with the edls on the front..... the are a terriffic combination....jus like he said...

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/2/2008 5:44:26 PM

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My outlaws measure 26in and the EDL's will go on 7in wide wheels. so I'm thinking pump the laws up and run the edls @ lower pressure and I should be ok. My only concern is the fact that the EDL's weigh almost 40 pounds each but I think the laws weigh 32 each. Would it be better weight wise to go with the tsl/vampire? does anyone know the weight of the 27x10 tsl/vampire ?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/2/2008 9:11:20 PM

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Go with 27x10 vamps or some bi claws.

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 9:04:32 AM

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The 27x10 Vampires are slightly under 26 pounds I believe.

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 1:34:38 PM

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16 pounds is nothing on a 400 pound machine with a 200 lb rider. Just lean back a little. Your head weighs 8 lbs.

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 7:46:26 PM

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hey JBiRD05 what size wheels are those EDLs on ? stock or after market?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 8:04:57 PM

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they are on stock rims...which of course are 12 inch rims

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 9:20:10 PM

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I know stock wheels will not be 7 inches wide .......guessing 6 inches wide maybe?

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RE: vamps. on the front and laws on the back? - 10/3/2008 9:41:28 PM

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