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trouble? - 8/19/2008 8:29:30 AM

ridinhard

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i posted this in honda but im not gettin nothin back maybe yall can help me.

ok i need to get this bike ready by the end of the month but i dont kno wut to do. every thing keeps goin wrong it seems like. i snorkeled it, k&n air filter and a hmf utility series exhaust. well it wasnt really runnin that great and but the snorkel was suckin in air pretty good. well i jetted it like it was recommended. well actually i got it professionaly done and they told me i picked up some more power but i havent got a change to run it cuz when i picked it up i had to go out of town to work. well i just got back from work and i ran it today and i actually feel like i lost some power i dont kno wut the deal is but thats wut it feels like its doin and the snorkel dont suck in air like it used to. wuts the deal here. any help would be great.

also a spark arrestor in backwards would that have ne thing to do with power loss i dont kno if mines in backwards or not cuz ive seen em in both ways before

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08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 8:35:53 AM

devildog12210

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Is there anything blocking the snorkals. It sounds like you are really rich. What color is the plug. My bet would be black and wet. You need to go smaller on your jets.

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 8:52:32 AM

ridinhard

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well its a brand new spark plug i put it in yesterday and ran it last night trail ridin and all that. well i pulled the spark plug and its actually like a light tan color and theres one spot on there thats actually a paper brown color so i dont know wut the deal is and the

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08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 8:54:10 AM

devildog12210

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Well thats good to go man. You jetting is fine then. I am scratching my head? Maybe someone else can chime in?

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~Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders.

"The 2nd amendment was never intended to allow private citizens to 'keep and bear arms.' If it had, there would have been wording such as 'the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'" -Ken Konecki

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 9:44:35 AM

ridinhard

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yea thats wut i was thinking but i dont kno wut the deal with the snorkel is and im turnin 27 backs and it just seems like its not turnin them any better than wut it was before the jet kit. and which way does the spark arrestor go in ive seen them both ways

_____________________________

08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 10:07:56 AM

devildog12210

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I don't have any experiance with the exhaust but your a/f ratio seems spot on. Im not sure how the direction of the spart arrestor would play in effect because anything it would do would change you jetting and you would be back at square one. I would say either way is going to give you the same effect. Is it possible you didn't get as much power as you were hoping for? Alot of the "difference" would depend on how bad you were off before.

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I come in peace. I didn't bring the Artillery, but I'm pleading with you, with tears in my eyes: If you **** with me, I'll kill you all!
~Marine General James Mattis, to Iraqi tribal leaders.

"The 2nd amendment was never intended to allow private citizens to 'keep and bear arms.' If it had, there would have been wording such as 'the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.'" -Ken Konecki

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 12:17:15 PM

ridinhard

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yea that might be what it is i mean i was hopein for a lot more power but i guess its not wut i got. but i mean either way it went im puttin a gear reduction and clutch kit to turn those 27 backs better and aventially get some 30 backs so will see how it goes

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08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 1:41:27 PM

bansheefan03

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well depending on how ur snorkel is it is very possible to have less power if its real restricted then u will not get as much air and to compensate for that u have to give it less fuel so in turn less fuel and air in the cylinder means less power now if it was lean before u got it jetted then ur getting more air so therefore can give it more fuel to give it more power

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2006 rhino 660
29.5 swamplites,lift,rear steer,snorkled

98 300
376 bbk,4.5mm stroked crank,ported head,ids2,snorkle,lift,body lift,locker,EDL/ ****s ,axle paddle,459 cam,gear reduction,clutch kit,warn 424,chrome XL2 wheels,katana oil cooler,400ex carb
soon to come ex head, disc brakes

98 300
not really sure how much lift, ape axles,gear reduction,xl2 wheels, axle paddle,and lots more to come

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 1:51:14 PM

ridinhard

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it was runnin rich before i jetted it and i dont kno if im quite understanding wut your sayin i put a new plug in it yesterday and ran it last night for a while on a trail ride then when i got home i pulled the plug and its was like a light tan and had a spot on there that was paper brown so i take it its right correct? and also im gettin less suction into my snorkel but when i close it with my hand it dies almost immediatly versus to before was suckin in a lot of air and takin 10 seconds to die so i dont kno if its just not understanding wut your sayin or wut the deal is but i dont kno

< Message edited by ridinhard -- 8/19/2008 1:52:47 PM >

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08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 2:02:24 PM

bansheefan03

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yes paper brown is dead on and if it was running rich before u got it jetted means ur getting less air the the stock snorkel and what should of been done was try and redo ur snorkel either go up a size or try and make less bends in it to where it was running lean that way u could give it more fuel and in turn give it more power and if ur snorkel is air tight like it should be it should die immediately

_____________________________

2006 rhino 660
29.5 swamplites,lift,rear steer,snorkled

98 300
376 bbk,4.5mm stroked crank,ported head,ids2,snorkle,lift,body lift,locker,EDL/ ****s ,axle paddle,459 cam,gear reduction,clutch kit,warn 424,chrome XL2 wheels,katana oil cooler,400ex carb
soon to come ex head, disc brakes

98 300
not really sure how much lift, ape axles,gear reduction,xl2 wheels, axle paddle,and lots more to come

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RE: trouble? - 8/19/2008 2:06:55 PM

ridinhard

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its a 2" triangle atv snorkel kit and its dyien almost immediatly now makin me feel better about it bein that its obviously sealed off but its not suckin in alot of air at all so i dont kno

_____________________________

08 white Honda Foreman 500
2500 warn winch
27" backs
2" highlifter lift kit
snorkel kit
k&n air filter
hmf utility exhaust
dyno jet kit
strobe lights

*soon to come*
pull start leak shield
clutch kit
hl lift springs
gear reduction
30x9 backs

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