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swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/4/2008 8:15:37 PM

dbleezy

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i have been looking at 28" mst's or 28 swamp fox plus for a good mud/trail tire
what yall think??

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/4/2008 9:02:19 PM

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I am very happy with my MST's. I have seen people riding on the Swamp Foxes and they are a very good looking tire as well. You probably won't go wrong either way.

The MST's last a LONG time. I don't know how the Foxes wear. Maybe someone else will chime in.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/4/2008 9:05:12 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dbleezy

i have been looking at 28" mst's or 28 swamp fox plus for a good mud/trail tire
what yall think??

lol me and my buddies had this argument on what would be better. They purchased the 28" swamp fox plus and i purchased the mst's in 28" aswell. i dont have the videos of them on trail but i do have one against each other in a mud hole here it is. first quade is 28" mst's mine, second is 29.5 outlaws, and the third renagade is 28" swamp fox plus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4se_aXAOiD4

The mst's are true to hight as swamp fox plus are about 1 1/2 short.
they both have a flat profile
the mst have a skinny front tire and 11" rear. swmap fox plus have 10.5 wide front and 12" rear nice foot print
in sand i found that the swamp fox plus outperformed the mst's hands down
in mud so far the mst outperformed the swamp fox do to clearence as the mst is a taller tire.
on trail its really close but i would have to say the swamp fox have a better bite to it
as far as smoothness goes they are both a nice smooth riding tire and steer with little to know effort.

< Message edited by lips450 -- 11/4/2008 9:13:07 PM >

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/4/2008 9:06:49 PM

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Cant help w/the MST's, but I do have a set of 26" Swamp Fox Pluses, they're an awsome tire! Ive had them for 2 years now w/NO holes or flats. I did have 1 leakin air so I had some bead sealer put on it. They clean well w/the right amount of throttle or will dig u till high-centered. There are some slices in the lugs from use, overall Ive been very impressed w/these.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 7:41:52 AM

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does anyone know the tread depth on the msts
cause that why i like the swamp fox's, the thing im worried about is if i get a 28 inch swamp fox, they run about a inch short and id like to have more then 27" true inches
???

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 9:44:13 AM

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sorry to say but the swamp fox pluse measure just a tad under 27" they run really short and also they weigh alot aswell. Not knocking this tire cause it looks and works really well. if your looking for a 28" tire your acually only going to get 27" if your lucky. i have a friend with 27"mst and put them beside the 28" swamp fox plus and the 27" mst came out to be just a tad bigger, sad but true. also i hope you have power behind this swamp fox plus tire cause they are really heavy tires.

good luck with what you choose.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 10:30:10 AM

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MST is a great all around tire, you wont be dissapointed.

lips450 the RENE has a ground clearence disavantage against your OUTY, that music was awesome......j/k LOL

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 1:14:47 PM

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about the music thing lol, no shi t, i hit the wrong song but down loaded it so said the **** with it. check out the other videos im sure they will be up to your standards lol

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 1:19:47 PM

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I didnt know if i should dance or what LOL

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 2:21:18 PM

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quote:

I didnt know if i should dance or what LOL

LMAO you know your killing me here , oh well what can i say it could of bin alot worse. I could of put a sound clip of a articrap going threw it, oops ment articat but then again i would probably run out of film do to it being stuck lol .......j/k

playes that song as i start to dance, WAZ GOING ON

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 2:31:25 PM

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LMAO you know your killing me here , oh well what can i say it could of bin alot worse. I could of put a sound clip of a articrap going threw it, oops ment articat but then again i would probably run out of film do to it being stuck lol .......j/k

Good one

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 6:35:27 PM

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Good one

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 7:43:02 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dbleezy

does anyone know the tread depth on the msts
cause that why i like the swamp fox's, the thing im worried about is if i get a 28 inch swamp fox, they run about a inch short and id like to have more then 27" true inches
???

All sizes of Outlaw MST's have one inch tread depth.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 9:24:34 PM

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ok thanks rkw38
so ur msts seem to clean out pretty good?

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/5/2008 11:51:39 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: dbleezy

ok thanks rkw38
so ur msts seem to clean out pretty good?

they acually cleaned out better than i thought it would. If you look closely at the video between the mst's & swampfox youd notice that the mst's at the same speed was cleaning and throwing alot better than the swamp fox plus.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/9/2008 1:08:47 PM

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swamp foxes arnt that heavy, the 26's are 26lbs in the front and 29lbs in the rear.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/9/2008 1:32:16 PM

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have you checked out the maxxis zilla? the 27-11-12 rear weighs in at only 24lbs and the front 27-9-12 is only 19lbs! the tread depth is 1.2 inches tall. they also cost ALOT less than most other tires out there. give them a look. i would have paid only 331 for a set of 27" zillas without my new rims.

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RE: swamp fox plus or mst? - 11/9/2008 4:23:50 PM

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IMO the outlaw mst's, the swamp fox plus's dont look like they would do good in the mud. they should change there name to the puddle fox plus's

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