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stock grizzly 700 - 12/1/2008 11:45:11 AM

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A buddy of mine just bought a new 700 grizzly. Alot of my friends and i have grizzlys but have never rode them with stock wheels and tires. My question is how fast should it go in low with stock tires. He has trouble keeping up with us in low and says that he can only do about 25. Is this normal or is somthing wrong with his. I know that i have no problem hitting 40 in Low. sorry for the long post .

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/1/2008 1:18:39 PM

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He should be able to hit 40ish. If the diff-lock is on, that's what's killing it.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/1/2008 1:35:51 PM

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Just talked to him and he said that in low 2wd he was able to hit 24-25 but sounded wide open. He put it in high and didn't have a problem. Is there anything that could cause that? He should be getting some laws soon. I really dont see how that would change anything but who knows. Thanks for the reply

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 8:22:17 AM

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Either it needs some serious break-in time, or the CVT is goofed up w mud or the like.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 1:36:27 PM

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yeah, he should be hitting 40ish no problem in low, something isn't right. i'd say since its revving high its something in the CVT, he needs to take a look there

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 1:56:19 PM

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mine is a 2008 700 and it will only do 25-30mph in low as well, my rhino would do the same, I don't think there is anything wrong, your huge tires are probably changing the ratio and allowing you to go much faster in a lower gear, kind of like making your low into a high with will really tall tires. I can do 30mph much easier when I put my 26" tires on than I can with my stocks, it races the engine at 25 with the stock tires but with the 26" tires it starts to screem a little a 30mph instead.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 2:35:44 PM

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I have 26's on my 700... Low does 40... High about 67. Explain that!

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 2:58:21 PM

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quote:

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I have 26's on my 700... Low does 40... High about 67. Explain that!

what kind of 26's do you have? there is so many variables that could change the ratio with tires, Did you ever see if you could do 40mph with the stock tires drew? go try it and see how that motor sounds

and just another thought they may have changed the gearing a little in the 09's??? I could almost guarantee there is nothing wrong with it. because mine won't get near 40 with out racing that engine big time and I have 1200miles on mine so far, so unless mines been messed up since day one, its fine.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 3:28:55 PM

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"Your huge tires are probably changing the ratio and allowing you to go much faster in a lower gear"

True, ground speed will be higher, but the speedo will still read the same speed and the rev limiter will still be hit at the same tire rpm. So that doesn't explain it. If you're talking GPS speeds then it does partially explain it.

Something is wrong w the OP's Grizz IMO. Probably CVT related. Incomplete breakin wouldn't hold it back 20mph. If it's brand new, let the dealer sort it out. After all you paid them all that money!!!

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1985 ATC70---detailed, open air filter, gutted exhaust, jetted, 200sx throttle housing & cable, stripped everything that doesn't make it go!

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 3:40:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: XLCat

"Your huge tires are probably changing the ratio and allowing you to go much faster in a lower gear"

True, ground speed will be higher, but the speedo will still read the same speed and the rev limiter will still be hit at the same tire rpm. So that doesn't explain it. If you're talking GPS speeds then it does partially explain it.

Something is wrong w the OP's Grizz IMO. Probably CVT related. Incomplete breakin wouldn't hold it back 20mph. If it's brand new, let the dealer sort it out. After all you paid them all that money!!!

with taller tires you are getting more speed with less revolutions out of the tires and less rpms in a way of kind of raising the gear ratio, when you raise your tire size taller you loose bottom end, do you not???
so therefore allowing more top end speed, less low end, now like I said this is just my theory, they may have changed the 09 gearing slightly everyone says they did in 09 rhino's to, so I don't know, but if it's brand new I just bet there is nothing wrong with it. Like I said mine will only do 25-30 as well with over 1200miles on mine not one issue yet, same with my rhino.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 3:52:39 PM

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I have 26" Mud Trax 9's on front 11's on rear. 12in rim.. your talking nothing more than an inch here, if that affects a 20 mph difference, then i'm wrong. Something is wrong with CVT has to be.

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Jet Kit
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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:01:43 PM

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quote:

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I have 26" Mud Trax 9's on front 11's on rear. 12in rim.. your talking nothing more than an inch here, if that affects a 20 mph difference, then i'm wrong. Something is wrong with CVT has to be.

Like I said then, I guess mines messed up to after 1200miles. I also wanna know why people are trying to do 40mph in low anyway?? is it because the taller tires sucked up all the power in high?? so you need to use low to maintain that speed??

< Message edited by r6realtor -- 12/2/2008 4:17:21 PM >

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:13:55 PM

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Thanks for the replys. A little more details its brand new but its an 08. it now has 28" backs and seems to be doing a little better. He is going to take it to the dealer and see what they say.

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:17:59 PM

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mine is an 08 as well. just bought it about 6 months ago. His best bet is taking it to the dealer. In low is he bouncing off a rev limiter of any kind? or just reving high?.... has it been in any kind of deep mud or anything? we had the same experience with a friends 660 but the only reason that happened is because he had mud packed into his CVT

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06 500 FOREMAN S SOLD!,,,, I'll miss you!
K&n Air filter, with outerwear prefilter
HMF Utility
Jet Kit
High Lifter lift springs
EPI clutch kit
2.5 Warn
Tiangle Snorkel
27" LAWS
Turner Gear Reduction
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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:32:01 PM

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quote:

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Thanks for the replys. A little more details its brand new but its an 08. it now has 28" backs and seems to be doing a little better. He is going to take it to the dealer and see what they say.

what mph will it do now? has he ever sunk it??

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:33:50 PM

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quote:

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mine is an 08 as well. just bought it about 6 months ago.

How do you like??? kind of off the subject but this grizz is bad a$$ aint it!!! This has been my favorite bike I have ever owned

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2009 Yamaha rhino 700 Camo
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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:35:18 PM

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absolutely love it. Went from the built Honda thats in my sig. had the gear reduction and everything. The power is not even close. and the IRS omg. Best upgrade i have ever made.

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06 500 FOREMAN S SOLD!,,,, I'll miss you!
K&n Air filter, with outerwear prefilter
HMF Utility
Jet Kit
High Lifter lift springs
EPI clutch kit
2.5 Warn
Tiangle Snorkel
27" LAWS
Turner Gear Reduction
2" lift

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:51:07 PM

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just a question why are you trying to go 40mph in low why would you ever need to go that fast in low

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 4:52:22 PM

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lol.. not trying only did it once about a month after i got it. Just seeing what it would do. but you can at least go 30-35 comfortably. he's not even able to do that

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06 500 FOREMAN S SOLD!,,,, I'll miss you!
K&n Air filter, with outerwear prefilter
HMF Utility
Jet Kit
High Lifter lift springs
EPI clutch kit
2.5 Warn
Tiangle Snorkel
27" LAWS
Turner Gear Reduction
2" lift

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/2/2008 6:14:16 PM

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just a question why are you trying to go 40mph in low why would you ever need to go that fast in low

We had just finished a ride and were heading back to the trucks....i wanted to try and get some of the mud off my bike and went a little fast through some water puddles on the way back followed by another buddy with the same set up as me. When we got to the trucks he said that he couldnt keep up with us and that he had to shift to high. and that his grizz sounded wrapped out at 25

The bike has never been sunk and the way he exsplained it.....it dosent sound like he is hitting a rev. limiter

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/3/2008 11:04:31 AM

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just a question why are you trying to go 40mph in low why would you ever need to go that fast in low

my sentiments exactly....

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/3/2008 1:04:52 PM

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"just a question why are you trying to go 40mph in low why would you ever need to go that fast in low"

Doesn't matter. The machine should do it no sweat and it isn't. So he has a mechanical problem. No reason to question what a fella wants to do w his $8000 machine. It's his money. I'd be pissed if mine only hit 25mph in L. I'd go trade up for a Recon.

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1985 ATC70---detailed, open air filter, gutted exhaust, jetted, 200sx throttle housing & cable, stripped everything that doesn't make it go!

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/3/2008 1:08:33 PM

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I would really love to hear the outcome of this situation and what mechanically went wrong with it?

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2009 Yamaha rhino 700 Camo
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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/3/2008 2:18:20 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: r6realtor

I would really love to hear the outcome of this situation and what mechanically went wrong with it?

i am wondering what is wrong as well.. will def. keep you all updated

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/10/2008 2:16:33 AM

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Just a stupid thought, but is he sure his throttle limiter screw is all the way out?

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/16/2008 12:20:17 AM

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Well he took it to the shop and they said it sounded like there was somthing in his clutch. They cleaned it out and 100 dollars later it was fixed. It now has no prob. hitting 45 in low

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RE: stock grizzly 700 - 12/16/2008 8:39:45 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: drew7693

I have 26" Mud Trax 9's on front 11's on rear. 12in rim.. your talking nothing more than an inch here, if that affects a 20 mph difference, then i'm wrong. Something is wrong with CVT has to be.

Like I said then, I guess mines messed up to after 1200miles. I also wanna know why people are trying to do 40mph in low anyway?? is it because the taller tires sucked up all the power in high?? so you need to use low to maintain that speed??

dude!!!! get your clutch fixed!!.........

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2008 yamaha Grizzly 700
ss108 wheels, aftermarket tires, 2.5 warn winch, DynaFS ignition, Tunes,.....more to come

06 500 FOREMAN S SOLD!,,,, I'll miss you!
K&n Air filter, with outerwear prefilter
HMF Utility
Jet Kit
High Lifter lift springs
EPI clutch kit
2.5 Warn
Tiangle Snorkel
27" LAWS
Turner Gear Reduction
2" lift

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