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shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 3:53:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		I finally got some pics of the primary shim mod, the demension of the shim is 22mm ID and 32.5mm OD and it needs to be 2mm thick, the Nyroc forum has the part number so you can order two 1mm shims from Yamaha but i just gave the demensions (listed above) to a machinest and it took him about 2 hours and $10 and i was out the door.



The primary is the sheave on the right, the shim goes in between the inside half of the sheave and the spacer.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 3:58:53 PM   
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My finger is on the added shim, i had my machinest make the shim out of brass so it wouldn't rust. You can clearly see how much lower the belt rides by looking at the dark place going around the outer edge of the sheave, before the shim, it was right on the edge. Best mod for the money as far as im concerned, lower gear ratio and better engine braking.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 4:53:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		The part numbers for the Yamaha washers that everyones buying is.They usually get one 1 mm washer and two 1/2 mm washers for a little adjustably.

90201-222F0-00   1/2 MM

90201-225A4-00   1 MM


ps (hope you don't mind the treadjacking full mod)

< Message edited by kingkev -- 3/29/2008 4:56:45 PM >

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 8:05:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		     full mod. king quad Is it a night & day difference? Just wandering, getting a list of future projects! Ha! Ha! Later....Brandon

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My new ride= 08 750 King Quad Belt snorked, VDI, M109R injector, EPI yellow spring, 18 gram weights, 2mm shim mod(Coop 45 mod) Twin Air & Yoshi=WOW!
4 a single, she hauls!!

"STOLEN"--- 07 700 Camo King Yoshi Pipe, PC3, UNI
filter, 27" Swamp Fox Plus, ATV Audiopipe, with the Bazookas(I love this thing)& **** 2500XT W/syn rope 05 500 Foreman 26"589 M+S 0n black C-4's, HMF Utility series, with jet, & UNI filter, boot guards& kimpex b

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 8:28:55 PM   
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   full mod. king quad Is it a night & day difference? Just wandering, getting a list of future projects! Ha! Ha! Later....Brandon


Yes, there is a big difference, definitly put this one on your "to-do" list, it's easy and quick.



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ORIGINAL: kingkev

The part numbers for the Yamaha washers that everyones buying is.They usually get one 1 mm washer and two 1/2 mm washers for a little adjustably.

90201-222F0-00   1/2 MM

90201-225A4-00   1 MM


ps (hope you don't mind the treadjacking full mod)



I don't mind at all, KingKev.......

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/29/2008 10:42:57 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: 4man0822

  full mod. king quad Is it a night & day difference? Just wandering, getting a list of future projects! Ha! Ha! Later....Brandon


Yes, there is a big difference, definitly put this one on your "to-do" list, it's easy and quick.



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ORIGINAL: kingkev

The part numbers for the Yamaha washers that everyones buying is.They usually get one 1 mm washer and two 1/2 mm washers for a little adjustably.

90201-222F0-00   1/2 MM

90201-225A4-00   1 MM


ps (hope you don't mind the treadjacking full mod)



I don't mind at all, KingKev.......


    10-4. Most of us Honest folks don't mind, especially when it's on topic, helpful, & most of all HONEST! Ha! Ha! LOL! I know most of us know who I'm referring to, huh?....Brandon

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I'm just some dumb, not plumb dumb, huh!!
My new ride= 08 750 King Quad Belt snorked, VDI, M109R injector, EPI yellow spring, 18 gram weights, 2mm shim mod(Coop 45 mod) Twin Air & Yoshi=WOW!
4 a single, she hauls!!

"STOLEN"--- 07 700 Camo King Yoshi Pipe, PC3, UNI
filter, 27" Swamp Fox Plus, ATV Audiopipe, with the Bazookas(I love this thing)& **** 2500XT W/syn rope 05 500 Foreman 26"589 M+S 0n black C-4's, HMF Utility series, with jet, & UNI filter, boot guards& kimpex b

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 6:57:50 AM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 3:41:23 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 4:24:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Because they have the ID and the OD that you need for the mod.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 4:33:07 PM   
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why yamaha shims



It was what the guy that originaly did this mod and showed the rest of us used.He did this mod on a 660 grizzly he had before he got a king.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 8:42:46 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 9:57:26 PM   
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how long did it take to do this mod i would l8ike to befor nats but i only have about 1-2 hours of time between now and then


Have you ever messed with the clutch?  If your not mechanically inclined, I wouldnt recommend that you get into the clutch assy.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 10:04:08 PM   
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how long did it take to do this mod i would l8ike to befor nats but i only have about 1-2 hours of time between now and then



I could get this mod in and on in about 15 minutes cause Ive taking this clutch apart so many times haha.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/30/2008 10:06:03 PM   
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how long did it take to do this mod i would l8ike to befor nats but i only have about 1-2 hours of time between now and then



I could get this mod in and on in about 15 minutes cause Ive taking this clutch apart so many times haha.

Im the same way.  Part of my routine maintenance.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/31/2008 2:16:56 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 3/31/2008 5:02:13 PM   
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man i know how to ride it thats about it


then you shouldnt be doing any major maintenance or mods by yourself.  Find someone to show you how to work on your bike so you will be more familiar with it so if something does happen, you can work on it yourself.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/31/2008 5:04:06 PM   
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Status: online 		Well I agree with you kq700rider but the way I learned pretty much everything I know was going out to the shop and tear it apart and put it backtogether the same way I took it apart. A clutch is pretty self explanatory so it wouldnt be to bad of a place to start. Just go and read some how tos like I did and it should be pretty easy.

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RE: shimming the primary - 3/31/2008 5:18:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		Take some pictures to, that might help when you put everything back together. Good luck kinlivinbig, you'll need it......

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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 4:19:10 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 4:22:19 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 4:31:12 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 5:05:09 PM   
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will it hurt me any on top end


    Yes, but not really sure as to how much!  I've heard kinda mixed reviews on it, sooooo . I may do it eventually, but not until I can do the fixed sheave mod also. That gives you what you lost on top-end +, so this is very promising!  Hope this helps....Brandon

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My new ride= 08 750 King Quad Belt snorked, VDI, M109R injector, EPI yellow spring, 18 gram weights, 2mm shim mod(Coop 45 mod) Twin Air & Yoshi=WOW!
4 a single, she hauls!!

"STOLEN"--- 07 700 Camo King Yoshi Pipe, PC3, UNI
filter, 27" Swamp Fox Plus, ATV Audiopipe, with the Bazookas(I love this thing)& **** 2500XT W/syn rope 05 500 Foreman 26"589 M+S 0n black C-4's, HMF Utility series, with jet, & UNI filter, boot guards& kimpex b

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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 6:07:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		You'll lose 5 to 8 mph (it depends on the quad) on the top end when you add the shim. A small price to pay for the added low end grunt.

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RE: shimming the primary - 4/2/2008 6:07:50 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/7/2008 8:19:29 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/7/2008 8:26:57 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/7/2008 8:56:16 PM   
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RE: shimming the primary - 4/8/2008 5:38:21 PM   
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Is this as good as a clutch kit or is it even close. how would it be to do this mod and drill the weights to 18g.


It's not as good as a clutch kit but as far as the price and the ease of doing it, it's a real good mod. to do.


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can i do this on my bike? how much will it help if it will work?



You should be able to but make sure you have at least 2mm of spline going into your roller plate.



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imgonna do it tomorrow the 9th and ill let ya know,using 1mm shim




Did you get it done yet?? How did it turn out for you??

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RE: shimming the primary - 4/8/2008 11:47:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		i didnt atempt it today cuz i got stuck grinding the right rear bearings out and replacing them  i have some questions about shimm mod, does the clutch engage like its geared lower and the whole powerband is geared lower, or it geared lower only when going slow? im debating if i should just do it cuz its easy and to tell yall or my wheeler turns the tires fine,im most likely gonna do it tomorrow and stop procrastinating

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RE: shimming the primary - 4/12/2008 2:10:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		the shim  i tryed was 3.5mm thick, way to thick and i cant find the site to the yamaha shims, so when i get a yamaha shim i will do this mod and tell yall how it does on my eiger. BTW can i ruffen up my primary sheeves for more pull?cuz they are almost shinny and waivey

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