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recon lift? - 11/16/2008 8:34:45 PM   
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im looking around for a lift/tires

i want to know how big of a lift can i go without stressing anything?
2-3inches?
where is the best place to buy lifts? HOW much do they run for?

front tires for recon? wat ya suggest? need something lite

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RE: recon lift? - 11/16/2008 8:47:15 PM   
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well i do know a good place and ur on their website lol

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RE: recon lift? - 11/16/2008 8:50:54 PM   
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if i was you and you could care less about how ruff it rode i would get some 2 in pipe spacers since there are no as expensive as a lift but if you want a good ride get a lift and i think it will run you around a $100 shipped and just get stock honda tires for the front and you can fit a 25" agrressive tire and it should pull fine

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RE: recon lift? - 11/16/2008 8:56:11 PM   
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Get the HL kit.  its about $100 shipped.

then get stock Foreman tires for the front and some 25" Bugs / Vamps for the rear.

A pipe / jet kit and mabye clutch kit will be needed too as a recon isnt made to pull bigger tires.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 9:34:25 AM   
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unless you get new rims on he rear u are limited on ur tire choice but i would go with tsl super swampers they are cheap and a very good tire i have them all the way around on my rancher u could do the same as they are pretty light

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 9:59:14 AM   
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leave the stock tires up front or get maxxis razr 2 tires, then run swamp fox tires on the rear in a 25"... i had a buddy do this to a 220 bayou and you wont believe how much better it does in the mud.  for a lift kit one from high lifter.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 3:17:55 PM   
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well i ment front tires only i already have 22in mudlites for rear.. and im not gonna mod this thing alot cuz well im getting to big for it

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 3:29:23 PM   
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i just searched for stuff for the recon and i have a question! i saw the dyno jet kit for it and was wondering, i also have a k&n filter for it if i get this jet kit will i notice a difference? i have stock pipe. also are the just jets like you put in the carbartor?

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 4:33:51 PM   
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I'll begin by saying I had a 01 Recon with the HL lift and 24x9x11 Mud Bugs rear, 23x8x11 Bear Claws front (pulled them off a Honda 300 4x4 which is the reason for the odd sizes). It pulled them, not easily. If you have 22's and aren't looking to go bigger, I wouldn't get the lift. After I added mine the quad just couldn't take it. It held up, but I was replacing bearings about twice as much as you should. With the Recon, you are still going to be caught by the axle, the lift does nothing to raise the axle. It's not worth the stress in my opinion: been there done that. IF you were wanting to run 25's, then maybe. Save the $100, put it towards something like better tires (since you want a lift, I'm assuming mud is a priority, so get a set of tires such as Vamps or Mud Bugs, they will benefit you much more than the lift). As for the jet kit, I'd say no. A drop in filter won't change air flow enough to throw your jetting off, so there wouldn't be any benefit from it. On the other hand, if you added an aftermarket exhaust or snorkle the jet kit would be necessary. 

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 7:01:09 PM   
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wat do u think about chains on 22" mudlites? you think they would fall inbetween grooves??

also would i need to replace the bearings i have 22" mudlites??

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 7:06:33 PM   
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 you know how the black plastic down below the green plastic by ur feet? that pushes water/mud/etc. so if i got the lift then it wouldnt push as much right?

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 7:22:56 PM   
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you know how the black plastic down below the green plastic by ur feet? that pushes water/mud/etc. so if i got the lift then it wouldnt push as much right?


trim or remove it.

the lift isnt gonna make a whole lot of difference, its still a RECON.

22" Mudlites straight up suck for mud use.  my 22x11x9 Gators would out-mud the lites anyday.

If its an option, I suggest selling the lil 229 and buy a quad that fits you better and will actually pull some tires.
I love recon's but not as an only quad.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 7:31:36 PM   
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the tires chains will work good. we used them in the winter on my dads foreman before we got exicutioners and the tire chains help alot.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 7:36:44 PM   
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yes did u have them on mudlites? the chains

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 8:02:07 PM   
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My cousins got 23'' bear claws on his recon (front and rear), and it pulls em fine.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 8:08:21 PM   
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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 8:10:56 PM   
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thats no recon lol!! also i ment i was wondering if the chains would fall in the grooves of the mudlites

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 8:17:57 PM   
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you won't be upset with a set of gators.they bite real good and aren't that heavy.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/17/2008 8:57:33 PM   
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Why gators? Bugs are identical, have a curved lug which actually helps them pull better, and also will have much larger lugs (1.2 inches). Even though your "plastic" will be raised, your axle will still drag. All my lift did for me (well, besides give me the room needed to clear tires) was make my Recon a death trap. It became VERY top heavy. I can't tell you how many times I rolled it after the lift, and never had a problem before. Instead of spending $100 on a lift, consider some tires. 22.5x12x9 MST's are $55 each, the original super swamper tsl's 22x12.5x9 would also be $55 each, Vampires would be $85, didn't look at the bugs, but those just give you some ideas. I'd be you the improvement in traction would be far greater than what you would receive with a lift. Look at Truservon's recon, it is awesome, has tons of clearance. OK, now try to drive over a 5 gallon bucket. Just won't work, it is still an SRA and the axle hasn't moved due to the lift. Same thing with yours. Your frame may not catch after a lift, but your axle will still get caught. I'm just sharing my experience, if I could go back I never would have done the lift (didn't want it, was forced to because my Bugs didn't fit).  Waste of money from what I experienced (my best friend had a 99 recon with stock 24's off a Honda Rancher, we rode a lot together and it didn't help me).  

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:16:42 AM   
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well my dad is not going to let me buy new tires seeing as how i just bought my mudlites at the beggining of the summer

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:35:34 AM   
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i was lookin at my recon and the stock a arms will only go so far so the regular 2" HL lift for the recon will be perfect

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i still dont see the point of irs in a sport quad its kinda like a screen door in a submarine

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 6:56:35 PM   
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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:11:44 PM   
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quote:

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i was lookin at my recon and the stock a arms will only go so far so the regular 2" HL lift for the recon will be perfect


but like ARK_SWAMP_RIDER mentioned, the little Recon is already a bit narrow so that extra raise of the center of gravity will make it much less stable.

I flipped mine numerous times and didnt even have a lift.

But to fix that, wheel spacers or wider tires can be used.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:13:56 PM   
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oo wheel spacers are only 15 bucks arnt they for like 2"?

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:17:24 PM   
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oo wheel spacers are only 15 bucks arnt they for like 2"?


hopefully they arent that cheap...

your lookin at about $150 or so for 4 1.5" round spacers.

dont get the lug extender type IMO.

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:18:49 PM   
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The 2 inch lift maxes out the front. I had to compress my shocks to get it to bolt up in the front. It's up to you, I know as a teenager without much money that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't have wasted money on my lift. I would have stuck with some 22's (I technically couldnt because I was running 11 inch rims). It wasn't worth the money spent just to add extra wear and make it no further than my friends recon with 24's and no lift. The lift will only run into more money. Spacers are a must since tires are out, so add them to the list. Parts will have more wear, so better start saving because it's only a matter of time. When I done it, everyone encouraged me, and looking back I can't tell you how much I wish I would have had someone try to say this to me, but everyone's different, to each his own. 

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 7:25:15 PM   
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ok i have a question.. say  i wanted to get size 24" tires or 25.. wat size rim would i need?

also would i be able to spin 24s without clutch kit dyno, pipe?

like im not talking outlaws im talking swamp lites or something

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RE: recon lift? - 11/18/2008 10:06:15 PM   
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My 24x9x11 Bear Claws (measure short) fit fine, no lift. I then replaced them with 24x9x11 Mud Bugs (measure just over stated size) and they rubbed even with a lift. I've heard of people running 25 Mud Lights with just a lift and spin them fine. A few minor changes were made in 02 that gave them a little more power. My recon struggled with the bugs, but spun the bear claws fine. You'll get different opinions on this, but same thing as I've said before, be ready to pay. If mud is a priority, I'd say sell the recon, buy a used 300 or Rancher 350 4x4, put tires on it and be set. I guarantee you that the recon will nickel and dime you so much you could have paid for that new used quad. I miss my recon, even though I've now got twice the quad. If you lift it and go with tires, spacers will be necessary. Easily $300+ there. Then add stress on parts, and if you can't repair yourself some big repair bills. I had mine for 3 years with the bear claws, no problems. I had the bugs and lift on a year before I sold the quad. I replaced the wheel bearings often, had to replace the clutch, rebuilt rear end, and replace swingarm bearings. Easily $1000 repairs in a year for me. Then you'll need something to help you spin them, probably pipe/filter/jet kit, another $300+. Depending on year and condition, you should be able to get $1000-$1500 easily out of your recon, save the $1000 you would have spent on mods for the recon, pick up a rock solid 300 4x4 for about $1500-$2000, add some good 25-26 inch tires ($300ish), and a warn 4-2-4 ($200 I think), for a total of $2000-$2500 and a much better quad. The 4-2-4 will wake it up and make it almost as fun to drive as the Recon, but then you can kick it into 4wd and have some fun. If I could go back, that is the route I wound go, just letting you know you have options. Just to show you what's out there, check out this 300 that sold on here a while back:
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RE: recon lift? - 11/19/2008 7:15:16 AM   
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The 2 inch lift maxes out the front. I had to compress my shocks to get it to bolt up in the front. It's up to you, I know as a teenager without much money that if I had it to do all over again I wouldn't have wasted money on my lift. I would have stuck with some 22's (I technically couldnt because I was running 11 inch rims). It wasn't worth the money spent just to add extra wear and make it no further than my friends recon with 24's and no lift. The lift will only run into more money. Spacers are a must since tires are out, so add them to the list. Parts will have more wear, so better start saving because it's only a matter of time. When I done it, everyone encouraged me, and looking back I can't tell you how much I wish I would have had someone try to say this to me, but everyone's different, to each his own. 

i already have 25x12.5 on the back of my recon and im thinkin of going biggr in the front. i have never flipped my recon either

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i still dont see the point of irs in a sport quad its kinda like a screen door in a submarine

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RE: recon lift? - 11/19/2008 7:38:47 AM   
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Go measure your bear claws, I'd bet they hit right at 24 inches. You're comparing two different things. My 24 inch bugs measured close to 24.5, and they rubbed the fender support brackets at stock height. When you add the lift, your raising the center of gravity.  When I got my bugs, I thought it'd be fine just because I didn't have problems with my bear claws of the same size. Even if you throw the safety out, so exclude the spacers, you are still gonna have way more money invested in the Recon than you would in a small cc 4x4 that would be more reliable and also take you further through the mud. I had big plans for my recon, then I realized about halfway through that it was running into tons of money. I parted it out back to stock, sold it, and had $2000 to put down on my foreman.  

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