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rancher 420 problems - 8/29/2008 6:57:10 PM

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Sorry guys for takin up space it's just that my bike is only 3 months old and have barely got to ride it. If anyone lives close to Cocoa FL, I will pay to fix. Or if somene can explain what to do in detail i would appreciate it alot. thanks guys! stripped out oil drain bolt and honda says the crankcase is to thin for them to mess with.

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/29/2008 9:00:29 PM

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Hmm.. the make a UNIVERSIAL plug for a car.. it has a kinda like a wing nut on 1 end that goes in and opes up and holds it in and rubber around the outside and a thing on the outside to tighten it.. hard to explain but i can find a pic of one if u want me too.. Umm go to a OIL LUBE place like where they change oil in cars.. and ask them to show u some of there univerisal plugs and if u see it u will know what im talking about.. but if not ill find a site with one on it.

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/29/2008 10:33:34 PM

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/29/2008 10:50:16 PM

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ouchhhh

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 8:57:12 AM

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also be carefull not to over tighten the oil filter bolts. thats what broke on my bros 420. the head of thebolt snapper off tho

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 10:58:52 AM

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Man, that would really stink...

Is it possible to repair that damage without replacing the case? Could it be welded?

You would think Honda would have made the little boss that the drain plug threads into more robust.

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 11:42:05 AM

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I think it snapped because when i shine a flashlight in the hole there is like a quarter inch gap were the threads are suppossed to be. Man this sucks does that means i have to get a new crank case? do any of ya'll know how much it's gonna cost me? I tell u what i will never get another honda! I've had nothing but problems with this thing! And it's BRAND NEW! I still owe $6,000 on this peice and i can't even ride it!

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 12:37:31 PM

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A case and labor will set you back over a thousand dollars bro. I hate to break it too you man.

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 1:16:16 PM

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Looking closely at that photo, it looks to me like if you are seeing a gap and then threads that chunk might not be broken off...

IE It looks like there is supposed to be a gap between the bottom of that little U shaped piece that is broken in the photo, and the bottom of the case, presumably to allow all the oil to drain out?

Is there another dealer or mechanic you could get to look at it? Though you might have to open the case to see exactly what you've got, I would think there would be hope that the cast part isn't broken off, or if it is that a professional welder might be able to fix it, or at least get the hole sealed...

In that photo I wondered if the rest of the boss that is remaining could be ground out, so a nut or threaded piece of steel could be fit in there to hold the drain plug (and never remove it again).

Even if you ended up with the drain hole sealed permantly and had to change the oil with a vacuum machine, that would still be better than replacing the case.

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 6:29:36 PM

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Is there anywere i might be able to get a bolt that is just a hair bigger than the one in it? or custom order one from somewere that might rethread it?

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 7:01:57 PM

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Any auto parts store will typically have a variety of oversize plugs that self-tap, but I think you need to figure out if the part of the casing broken in that photo is broken on yours...

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RE: rancher 420 problems - 8/30/2008 7:50:25 PM

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Don't put a self tapping plug in that hole!!!

Looking at the pic, there's half a thread at the top. That means no resistance from the other side to hold the bolt square. I can see a cracked case happening before the bolt's even snug...

I havn't laid my hands on one, but looking at the pic from toodeep, the only fix I'm possibly seeing is welding a bung on the outside of the case to hold a new drain plug. That's IF the crankcase is suitable to leave the broken pieces inside. That's hit and miss and would require the knowledge of someone who's split one of these...

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