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no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 6:02:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have no spark on my grizz what is wrong fuse or what? Took wire off held a screw driver to it and nothing

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 6:08:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		take the spark plug out and hold it near a ground (frame or shock mount bolt) and see if you have spark that way. if nothing put a new spark plug in and see whatcha got then.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 6:13:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		heck the plug is new jsut put it in at mud nats. Only have gone on 3 rides since then. But shouldnt i get a spark sticking a screw driver in it

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 6:34:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		and not sure never tried it that way. i would take it out anyway and give it a shot. couldnt hurt. besides its a pain the butt to get to on a 660.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 7:16:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		ok took the plug out and it was black as night so i am going with a new plug thanks just don't know why i am still not getting to plug to spark on me though

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 9:45:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		still stumped i need help. Still no fire with new plug. Carb is getting fule but cant start up so only thing i can figure is not getting spark. Has anyone had to replace there spark plug wire? If so how hard is it to do and can i just use any kind of wire

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 9:53:13 PM   
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Status: online 		Look at the parts diagram online. It comes with the whole coil. Not hard to change.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:03:51 PM   
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Status: online 		you should get a spark with a screw driver, replacing the plug wont do anything you should have spark no matter if the plug is bad or not, (if its black it needs to be replaced anyway), you could have a bad plug wire, something wrong at the coil, or at the worst your stator could be bad, there is a little magnetized box that is wired in with the stator that provides spark. i doubt this is your problem but at worst it could be. try your spark plug boot, then wire, then coil, if all that fails, it could be your stator.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:09:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		you know what you maybe right i just put a new stator in yesterday

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:34:24 PM   
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Status: online 		ya that is your problem, there is a little black box that is wired in with the stator, i replaced my stator and put that in upside down, there is a little circular magnent on the black box it needs to the facing the rotor. there has to be a magnetic feild in between the black box and stator across the rotor.

< Message edited by chrisw700 -- 11/19/2008 10:38:26 PM >

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:48:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: chrisw700
replacing the plug wont do anything you should have spark no matter if the plug is bad or not, (if its black it needs to be replaced anyway


FYI, if the plug is heavily fouled with soot (black carbon deposits from being too rich) then it is possible to lose spark.  Reason being is the carbon deposits fill the gap between the ground strap and the electrode.  When this happens, there's no gap for the electricity to jump to create a spark.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:51:35 PM   
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Status: online 		that is also true, didnt think about that one. but if he stuck a screw driver up there it should scratch most of that soot off and get a connection goin? try cleaning out the boot first and make sure theres no soot up there first and replace your plug. when i replaced my stator though i had this problem from putting the little black box in upside down.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:52:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		dang i have to get another gasket then. Man this sucks i didn't know it had to be put in a certain way i thought it was in the correct way.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 10:57:21 PM   
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Status: online 		ya i went through the same thing lol, when its in the right way it looks upside down. but it has to be down in there to where the rotor is inbetween the black box and the stator.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 11:00:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		The little black box you are referring to is the pickup coil a.k.a. the pulsar coil.  There is a small metal strip on one side of it.  That side needs to be facing the rotor.

As far as sticking a screwdriver up there, I have no idea what you are referring to by that.  The gap I am referring to is the spark plug gap itself, not in the plug cap.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/19/2008 11:04:46 PM   
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Status: online 		mud dog explained the stator problem perfect. and thanks for clearing up the plug thing i didnt really understand your previous statement i thought you were saying that soot could be in the top of the boot. he was talking about taking the plug out and sticking a screw driver in the top of the boot and check for spark, not touching the plug to the frame and checking to see if the plug had spark.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 5:51:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeah i was sticking it in the boot b/c thats where the spark is comeing from and it was clean it had no soot. Gonna pull it all off and see what it looks like today i hope that is my only problem. Thanks guys

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 8:09:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		alright ripped it out this morning and it was all in correctly.little metal piece facing the magnet and everything so now i am thinkin the ingnition.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 8:28:48 AM   
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Status: online 		are you grounding the screwdriver or taking it near a ground? thats the only way your gonna get a spark
or just touch the screwdriver while cranking and you will feel it

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 8:38:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		First, if there is no spark start with the basic's check for power at the coil with the key on, if power is there check to see if the ground is triggering when the engine is turning over, if all that checks out
the coil is bad

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 11:46:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was starting it with the screw driver in it. And got nuthing even stuck my fingure around it and started it and got nuthing. So i am led to assume its the coils. I wrote the place i bought the stator  from and all they asked did i follow the directions. So i said yes, so tell me what the problem could be, so still waiting on that answer.

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 3:30:49 PM   
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Status: online 		makes me wonder if you were truly having a problem with the stator in the begining
was the bike running while it had a charge on the battery?

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RE: no spark grizz 660 - 11/20/2008 4:13:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		no i had no charge at all. Got it running today. Had to bend the pulser coil just a little bit i mean only a little. After that it fired right up. Thanks guys

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