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outlawmonster29.5 -> do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 6:15:31 PM)

do you think i could turn 29.5 on 420



GWC -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 6:17:42 PM)

Not stock you will need gear reduction's and a clutch kit and pipe.



duby05 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 7:03:33 PM)

actually all you need it the hmf optimizer and would do fine and might wouldnt hurt to get a pipe too



HondaGuy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 7:34:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: duby05

actually all you need it the hmf optimizer and would do fine and might wouldnt hurt to get a pipe too


[sm=funnypost.gif] ROFL [sm=598.gif][sm=671.gif] No way you are effectively spinning 29.5s without at least one of the gear reductions on a 420. I recomend close to the same thing GWC said, gear reduction, pipe, PCIII, and no clutch kit. From what I've read the clutch kit doesn't act right after getting the reduction and you won't need it anyway. The Optimizer doesn't do anything on a 420, it may even hurt it cause many 420s, mine included, run rich from the factory.



muddyfuzzy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 7:38:14 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: duby05

actually all you need it the hmf optimizer and would do fine and might wouldnt hurt to get a pipe too


please refrain from posting nonsense. it can not............and will not swing a 29.5 if it does not have a reduction and probably both at that. mine is maxed with a 28" skinny and my bike tuned. i would strongly advise against the afore mentioned statement.



GWC -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 8:02:38 PM)

yeap 29.5s are heavy and have a very aggressive tread pattern that requires alot of lowend power in mud to spin effectivley. not to even bring up the fact they gear the quad up so much because of the taller height over stock.



duby05 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/1/2008 9:11:11 PM)

my cousin had 28 mudzillas on his bike stock turnin them then he got a programmer and hmf and spin them like stock tires now he has 30s



ams622 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 12:44:07 AM)

mudzillas are a completly different tire though,  an outlaw requires way more power to turn because of the way they paddle.  mudzillas are easier to spin because they paddle less and dig more.  imo



Ruttroww -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 11:36:41 AM)

If you want to run 29.5's, Buy a wheeler with enough a** to get the full potential out of them. They may look good on the 420, right until you need a buddy to tow you out of the mud.



GWC -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 12:01:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: duby05

my cousin had 28 mudzillas on his bike stock turnin them then he got a programmer and hmf and spin them like stock tires now he has 30s


shoot if thats the case he might as well put 31s or 32s on it and stop messing around with those small tires.[8|]



muddyfuzzy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 12:05:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: duby05

my cousin had 28 mudzillas on his bike stock turnin them then he got a programmer and hmf and spin them like stock tires now he has 30s


if you look @ my sig you will see two bikes...........both with 28" outlaws..............wanna guess which one turns them over "like stockers". 



TexasEdition -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 1:03:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: muddyfuzzy

quote:

ORIGINAL: duby05

my cousin had 28 mudzillas on his bike stock turnin them then he got a programmer and hmf and spin them like stock tires now he has 30s


if you look @ my sig you will see two bikes...........both with 28" outlaws..............wanna guess which one turns them over "like stockers". 


The Rancher of course...[8|] j/k man..



P360onBugs -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 1:22:23 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: outlawmonster29.5

do you think i could turn 29.5 on 420


No.



HondaGuy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 6:52:25 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruttroww

If you want to run 29.5's, Buy a wheeler with enough a** to get the full potential out of them. They may look good on the 420, right until you need a buddy to tow you out of the mud.


http://www.highlifter.com/forum/m_2826501/mpage_1/tm.htm  Check this out before saying that too much.[:'(]



P360onBugs -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 7:00:08 PM)

nice. but thats not mud.

got any good mud vids or pics?



muddyfuzzy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 7:07:17 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: HondaGuy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruttroww

If you want to run 29.5's, Buy a wheeler with enough a** to get the full potential out of them. They may look good on the 420, right until you need a buddy to tow you out of the mud.


http://www.highlifter.com/forum/m_2826501/mpage_1/tm.htm  Check this out before saying that too much.[:'(]


he's got TWO freakin reductions, cmon man. read my first post, i already covered that. wayne did a tremendous amount of work on his bike to do that, not to mention all the $$$$$$. his bike is the EXCEPTION not the RULE.
it is capable of turning them but at what cost? how many people are willing to spend the time, money and effort to push every oz. of performance out of their machines...................not many.



Dezz -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 7:08:41 PM)

Like most everyone else here, you are not going to turn 29.5 Outlaws easy or with any authority on a stock 420 Rancher.

And those above pics mean nothing.....WHY????   Because that was not mud that rancher was going through....it was dirty water.

Dezz



Green420 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/2/2008 10:52:37 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dezz

Like most everyone else here, you are not going to turn 29.5 Outlaws easy or with any authority on a stock 420 Rancher.

And those above pics mean nothing.....WHY????   Because that was not mud that rancher was going through....it was dirty water.

Dezz


I know right??? It wont even spin them on dry ground !!!!

Come on man. 30% GEAR REDUCTION TOTAL , hmf pipe, snorks, PCIII and you dont think I can spin those little 30s...haha 

Somebody on here did the math and the bike can spin 32.5" tires just like a stock rancher can spin the stock 24" tires.

But I have no point to prove to you or anybody else [;)]



P360onBugs -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 6:51:10 AM)

i never said you had a point to prove 420 .

but i would like to see some real mud pics. i alwasy give credit where credit is due with a little bike.



James Chapman -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 6:53:37 AM)

quote:

Somebody on here did the math and the bike can spin 32.5" tires just like a stock rancher can spin the stock 24" tires.


Who is doing that math?[&:]



JPs300 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 7:58:41 AM)

I've never owned a 420, but a little research tells me that with a reduction and the typical performance mods, 28"s would be a good tire.

I'm sure with the double reduction Green420 was able to pull the 30's, but at a cost that was obvisouly too high...
http://www.highlifter.com/forum/Bye_Bye_30s/m_2954529/tm.htm
Seems that the tires and reduction were more than the driveline can reliably handle. Obvously he has weighed his options and used the bike enough to make a good decision. Evidentally the benefits of an extra 1.5-2" of tire isn't worth negatives.



longdude17 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 11:00:58 AM)

well said



followedhard2follow -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 4:56:15 PM)

The wheeler in the pics is not driving through mud.[sm=icon_wink.gif] I keep telling people that water is your best friend. You put it in the lake bottom where there is only suction clay to load your tires and you're not going anywhere. I've had my bike in a hole that stopped the tires from turning. Had to neutral slam it to get out. Need that clutch kit bad...



HondaGuy -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 7:00:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: muddyfuzzy

quote:

ORIGINAL: HondaGuy

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruttroww

If you want to run 29.5's, Buy a wheeler with enough a** to get the full potential out of them. They may look good on the 420, right until you need a buddy to tow you out of the mud.


http://www.highlifter.com/forum/m_2826501/mpage_1/tm.htm  Check this out before saying that too much.[:'(]


he's got TWO freakin reductions, cmon man. read my first post, i already covered that. wayne did a tremendous amount of work on his bike to do that, not to mention all the $$$$$$. his bike is the EXCEPTION not the RULE.
it is capable of turning them but at what cost? how many people are willing to spend the time, money and effort to push every oz. of performance out of their machines...................not many.


I'm merely trying to point out that it is possible, if you got the $ and the time. And obviously the cost of the 30s was too high lol.



Green420 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 8:55:33 PM)

you guys trip me out



truponycar2 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/3/2008 11:57:23 PM)

I've seen what his bike can do and it can spin them without difficulty.  He is not using that vid to prove that he can spin the crap out of them.  He was just showing how it ran in that pit.  If he wanted to prove how well it could spin them in thick mud, I'm sure he would have shown a vid of it if he had it.  Even if he did, I bet most of you would still stay "that wasn't thick mud" just because you don't want to admit that it is possible.  Hear me now and believe me later, that 420 could spin those tires just fine [:D]  He's not just blowing smoke and trying to make his bike sound better and badder than everyone else's.  He still doesn't have any ground clearance, so it can't be that good!!! [:D][:D][:D]



Green420 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/4/2008 10:01:04 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truponycar2

I've seen what his bike can do and it can spin them without difficulty.  He is not using that vid to prove that he can spin the crap out of them.  He was just showing how it ran in that pit.  If he wanted to prove how well it could spin them in thick mud, I'm sure he would have shown a vid of it if he had it.  Even if he did, I bet most of you would still stay "that wasn't thick mud" just because you don't want to admit that it is possible.  Hear me now and believe me later, that 420 could spin those tires just fine [:D]  He's not just blowing smoke and trying to make his bike sound better and badder than everyone else's.  He still doesn't have any ground clearance, so it can't be that good!!! [:D][:D][:D]



This is YOU in this vid with ME right ????


http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x222/johnwayne1982/?action=view&current=MOV02341.flv


No GC was needed I guess....lol j/k...[:'(][;)][:D]



lips450 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/4/2008 11:40:54 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: outlawmonster29.5

do you think i could turn 29.5 on 420



LMAO YOU SERIUOS?

the only way that thing would be able to run with 29.5 and do OK with it is if you seat on the side lines useing a remote control to get threw everything and even then i still wonderfor.



bear09 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/5/2008 9:02:46 AM)

you can spin 29.5's on a 420 if you have the time and the money it is deffinately possible i've seen it done but by the time you sink all that money into a 420 you could have a grizz brute ect... but if you plan on keepin the bike stock or with jus some bolt ons then the bike will have a hard time in any situation



truponycar2 -> RE: do you think i could turn 29.5 on a 420 (10/6/2008 12:46:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Green420

quote:

ORIGINAL: truponycar2

I've seen what his bike can do and it can spin them without difficulty.  He is not using that vid to prove that he can spin the crap out of them.  He was just showing how it ran in that pit.  If he wanted to prove how well it could spin them in thick mud, I'm sure he would have shown a vid of it if he had it.  Even if he did, I bet most of you would still stay "that wasn't thick mud" just because you don't want to admit that it is possible.  Hear me now and believe me later, that 420 could spin those tires just fine [:D]  He's not just blowing smoke and trying to make his bike sound better and badder than everyone else's.  He still doesn't have any ground clearance, so it can't be that good!!! [:D][:D][:D]



This is YOU in this vid with ME right ????


http://s182.photobucket.com/albums/x222/johnwayne1982/?action=view&current=MOV02341.flv


No GC was needed I guess....lol j/k...[:'(][;)][:D]



Yeah, it's me.  Might have had you except I hit that hole at the end!!!  Plus, I just have little Bugs.  Nothing compared to those Backs.  [:(] [sm=bow.gif]  I need to do some clutch mods but my friend with the spring compression tool keeps bailing on me.  You didn't need gc in that pit.



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