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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/15/2008 10:38:41 AM   
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would it be possible to run this 1000 kit (no turbo) , with just a pipe, intake, and programmer? just like the other BBK?


Yes! I am building a motor as we speak to dyno with 1000cc's and no turbo. Has ported heads, 2mm over valves, RW cams, and '09 intake. I'll post the results when I'm done.

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/15/2008 7:39:39 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/15/2008 9:29:51 PM   
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IS THE WEIGHT OF THE FOUR INCH PISTONS GOING TO THROW THE BALANCE OF THE CRANK OFF


Yes, had a time getting it to come around on the balancing machine. The piston and ring assy, is 70 grams heavier than the original. It's almost together, I'll get a better handle on the balance setup, once I do a few.

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 1:11:34 AM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPVTxF-Kjr0

HP numbers to come!



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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 1:23:35 AM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 6:37:40 AM   
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Sweet!


James go to bed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 7:57:16 AM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 8:31:18 AM   
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I saw where you said you have an '09 intake on the new motor, I just swapped one in on one our 08 race bikes and couldn't see any difference between the 2 besides the part number stamped on the side.  Is it supposed to have better flow characteristics or something?  They look identical.  


Yes the bad side on the '09 flows better than the good side of an '07. Did you add fuel to go with the extra air?

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 3:18:14 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 3:41:03 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 3:43:23 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 3:45:56 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 3:51:09 PM   
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mrrpm:

We have gotten 113 ENGINE hp so far out of this prototype engine. The power range is almost over around at 8000rpms, to use the stock computer. Here are the specs of the engine:

1004cc's

11.5 to 1 compression

Ron woods cams

2mm oversize valves, (intake and exhaust)

full port and polish

STOCK '09 intake!

50mm throttle body

dyno headers

STOCK crank and rods


Pretty impressive!!! Greg doesn't hold much back!

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 4:12:18 PM   
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Status: online 		So you've doubled the horsepower by going up 200cc's? I guess this answers the question of factory detuning.  I would bet when Can Am release their 1000cc bike, it won't be 113 crank hp. I'd bet it be around 85 crank hp. But that's just a guess. Could be less.

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 4:36:50 PM   
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Status: online 		That motor is more than just a stock motor with 200 more cc's, thats apples to watermelons .  That prototype has head work, aggressive cams, 09 intake, higher compression, larger throttle body, and free flowing header/exhaust.

It'll take a little work to push that power out of just bolting those jugs and pistons up!   But its a d*** good start!!!!!

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 4:47:15 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 5:05:19 PM   
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That motor is more than just a stock motor with 200 more cc's, thats apples to watermelons .  That prototype has head work, aggressive cams, 09 intake, higher compression, larger throttle body, and free flowing header/exhaust.

It'll take a little work to push that power out of just bolting those jugs and pistons up!   But its a d*** good start!!!!!


Yes, it's had some work, but the important thing to remember is this setup is a bolt together deal. The cams, valves, and after I get to selling the jugs, are shelf parts that people can buy and tune and should arrive where I'm at. It'll make more power with a bigger intake, and more compression, but I'm trying to make power at as good as a price as I can. Custom intakes are expensive, and the compression can be raised, but either one costs more money. I haven't tried it, but this motor should run on 93 octane pump gas, as the stockers are 10.3 to 1 and run on 87. This one is only 11.5 to 1, which isn't that much more.

I'll almost guarantee it'll make 125 or 130 with an intake and compression. How long the rods will last is another question. More power is harder on rods and the same for compression. RPM's will help power if the torque can be maintained, but I'm trying to keep it under the stock computer's rev limit, so you guys can use the stock computer and be easier to get into, and tune. I ain't done yet, I'm gonna give this thing some thought over the weekend, and try some things on monday. I'm ultimately gonna put my handmade turbo intake on, and more compression and turn it more to see what that does. It won't do anyone but me any good, but it' ll show the potential of this setup, should anyone want to go where I've been.

Oh yeah, for those that haven't seen it, here's a link to a video of a dyno pull I put on youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H17NupjHgk


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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 5:58:41 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 7:31:27 PM   
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Ran alcohol on the dyno?

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 8:10:53 PM   
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Ran alcohol on the dyno?


Yes, ran, not drank!!!

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 8:13:30 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/17/2008 11:01:35 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/18/2008 10:26:33 AM   
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i think your renegade has a drinkin problem


Not yet, it doesn't, but it soon will have, once I put the turbo alky motor in!! LOL!

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/18/2008 11:11:08 AM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 2:39:31 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 3:16:48 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 3:27:00 PM   
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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 3:33:27 PM   
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Its a shame the can-am guys cant use those jugs in the C M R, Its not like yall need anymore as it is.


and why would you say this???

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 3:42:03 PM   
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Its a shame the can-am guys cant use those jugs in the C M R, Its not like yall need anymore as it is.


and why would you say this???


Which part? It says no bolt on jugs......That and the can-ams are where it's at FOR NOW.

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RE: Whopping BIG bore kit!! 1000+ cc's - 10/24/2008 3:50:03 PM   
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Its a shame the can-am guys cant use those jugs in the C M R, Its not like yall need anymore as it is.


Class 18-3 Super Pro says 700-990+cc's this is plus.

Class 18-4 Super modified says 0-990+cc's same here.

It also says big bore kits are legal too.

Seems like it would be legal, or am I missing something here?

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