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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/9/2008 11:47:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		My 07 tahoe has seperate running light for truck, blinker light for truck, running for trailer, and blinker for trailer. They are all under the hood. They have a seperate fuse block in the truck for inside truck wiring. If you have a meter, check each fuse in both if you aren't sure. My guess though, is the bulb. Swap the bulb with the other side and see if it follows. If it stays on that side and works on the other side, it is the wiring of the trailer or a fuse. Start narrowing things down.

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 12:53:44 AM   
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My 07 tahoe has seperate running light for truck, blinker light for truck, running for trailer, and blinker for trailer. They are all under the hood. They have a seperate fuse block in the truck for inside truck wiring. If you have a meter, check each fuse in both if you aren't sure. My guess though, is the bulb. Swap the bulb with the other side and see if it follows. If it stays on that side and works on the other side, it is the wiring of the trailer or a fuse. Start narrowing things down.


Correct. However on newer model vehicles, they started putting even more fuses than that. They started putting the trailers left turn signal on one fues and the trailers right turn signal on another. Totally seperate from the towing vehicles turn signal fuse.

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 7:32:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well if he turns the right side turn signal on, get a test light and and check the plug on the truck for a blinking light then that will tell him if it is the truck or trailer. But I would bet (since he said it did it on two different vehicals) its the trailer bad connection somewhere or the bulb/light itself, people make working on trailer lights harder than it really is. Good luck!!!

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 7:50:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		You know, it seems like if some folks could or would read the post thoroughly , They would have seen He said It was a Toyota truck , and that It does the same thing on two different trucks. Now foulplay , you still think its a freakin fuse? I bet thats you answer to everything, I got a rod knocking,better check my fuses, haha. This poor fellow is prolly all confused as to what his problem really is now. Anyway, I think he now has enough info to get his problem fixed. Good luck on getting the lights fixed.

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 7:58:49 AM   
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Status: online 		whats it mean when the running lights work fine and the brake lights work but then when u hit the left or right blinker they both flash like caution lights?  is that wiring wrong somewheres along the way?  ive pulled other trailers before and they worked fine so its not anything to do with my truck, its the wiring on the trailer but i have checked it and still does the same thing

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 8:13:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		Check your fuse, hahahaha. No really,  It does sound like the lights on the trailer are just wired different than your truck. Switch some wires around on the trailer at the plug till you get it right, or a 12 volt test light would make it easier and faster. I would first check it at the trucks plug first with a test light and see if it does it , then go from there.

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 9:14:13 AM   
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Status: online 		Cliff, that is often caused by a bad ground.  Sometimes if a ground is not present it will complete the circuit through the other hot wire (I know it seems odd) but when both are on it causes erratic behavior. 

Make sure everything is wired right as well.  If you have a round plug the wire colors mean different things than if you have a flat plug. 

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 9:23:01 AM   
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well the trailer is a flat plug, ill check into it this weekend, i bet ur right it is the ground on the trailer, ill look into it and get it figured out
thanks for the help

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RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 11:29:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		A loose or bad ground can cause all kinds of weird things to happen. I always hook up the white wire ( on a 4 wire flat plug ) directly to the trailer frame somewhere. Using the ball for a ground is asking for trouble. Also it doesn't hurt to use some dialectric grease inside the brass holder that holds the bulb. 

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 1:12:13 PM   
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    I always run ground wires to all the lights from the trailer plug.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 2:44:00 PM   
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    When building trailers I never use the frame as the ground.

    I always run ground wires to all the lights from the trailer plug.
    An excellent idea when it's being built. I do the same thing. After the fact on an old trailer it's still the best way to do it but the white wire to the frame beats using the trailer ball for a ground any day of the week.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 3:13:42 PM   
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    Status: offline     		the rust on the ball shouldnt matter because you have a ground on ur trailer plug that plugs into the truck.  i build trls for a living and the fuses are the problem 99% of the time.  as far as fords and dodges they have seperate left and right trl lgt fuses in them and if the truck lgts are working it doesnt mean your trl lgts should. the easiest way to check it would be to grab a batt charger and ground it to the trl and touch the red to each of the 3 prongs on the plug.  the brown should light the whole trl up, the green should be the right side, and the yellow should be the left side.  if it works its not your trl and something on your truck.  prolly just a fuse.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 3:23:37 PM   
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    the rust on the ball shouldnt matter because you have a ground on ur trailer plug that plugs into the truck.
    Assuming the white wire on the trailer side of the plug is either ran all the way back to the lights or it is attached to the frame, you are correct. If neither one of those conditions exist, rust on the ball makes all the difference in the world as for as trailer light performance is concerned. 

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 3:27:30 PM   
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    Status: offline     		You could have a bare wire touching the trailer somewhere or you could have a light on that side of the trailer that has an issue. Trace the wires good. Take the covers off of the lights and check them good.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 3:48:20 PM   
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    Status: online     		I'm not sure on the newer Toyota but on the older toyota's you had to use a Trailer Light Taillight Converter.

    Maybe the new one has this and it has gone bad.

    Looks like this.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 4:21:56 PM   
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    You know, it seems like if some folks could or would read the post thoroughly , They would have seen He said It was a Toyota truck , and that It does the same thing on two different trucks. Now foulplay , you still think its a freakin fuse? 


    If that circuit on the trailer has a short its going to do the same thing on every truck he plugs it into.........it will blow that fuse.

    Thats what fuses do......thats why they are there.......to let you know you may have a problem.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 6:45:46 PM   
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    Parking lights work, one brake light works, the other diesn't.  One blinker works, one doesn't.  That's one wire or one light bulb.

    The truck is a Toyota, so it uses a converter box.  That rules out anywhere else on the truck including separate fuses on trucks that are so equipped (which this one is not).  So the wiring issue is between that box and the trailer plug (the pigtail on the truck) or on the trailer wiring, or again, the bulb.  Pretty easy to chase.  Start witht the bulb.  It's the bulb or the green wire's broken somewhere.


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    For what its worth my ball was real rusty put a new one on took care
    of the problem,the ground thru the ball is important,good luck.


    That's not correct.  The ground through the ball is not important, and is intermittant at best on a good day.  It switches on and off every time you hit a bump.  It is not present at all on brand new hitches with paint still on them.  You have a wiring fault, and your lights are flashing like crazy from bright to dim, left to right, sometimes with the tow vehicles directionals, sometimes opposite, sometimes complete stealth mode...  You really should fix the ground wire.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/10/2008 7:00:25 PM   
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    So are you saying that toyota does not have seperate fuses for trailer lights? All the other brands do now, it seems odd that they don't.


    No one is saying that Toyota's do not have seperate fuses. We are simply saying that most newer model trucks have seperate fuses so the Toyota's most likely do as well.
    My '01 Tacoma has separate fuses for the trailer lights. I am sure Tundras are separate too.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/11/2008 12:50:25 AM   
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    The truck is a Toyota, so it uses a converter box.  That rules out anywhere else on the truck including separate fuses on trucks that are so equipped (which this one is not). 


    When a vehicle has a seperate turn signal from the tail light (most commonly the amber turn signal and red tail light) it will use a converter box. It is converting it from a three wire system to a two wire system. That doesn't mean that it won't have fuses under the hood for the trailer lights which is part of the towing package. Trailer lights are no longer just spliced into the tail lights any more like they once were. You can fry the electrical system of a vehicle doing that these days. Check what it cost to have trailer wiring put on a mid 90's Jeep Grand Cherokee and similar year model Ford Explorer. Times have changed and so have the vehicles that we drive!

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 9/11/2008 1:11:15 AM   
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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/17/2008 11:36:27 PM   
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    Status: offline     		I got a chance to work on it today.  I found the ground from the wiring connection from the trailer had rusted & I redone it.  Now everything is working like it should for now.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/18/2008 9:04:30 AM   
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    What rzrdawg is saying is, if the lights are working on the truck as he stated. Then the fuses are good, regaurdless if has 1, 2 or 10 fuses. The problem has to be in the trailer wiring or bulb. The rust on ball has nothing to do with it as the other lights are getting a ground.


    That is incorrect for many newer trucks. I know for a fact late model Fords, Dodges, and Chevrolets have  seperate fuses for trailer lights. Check your owners manual.



    My ford, which had the same problem with trailer lights, has a left towing fuse and a right towing fuse. It'll show you in the owners manual where these are if your truck has them.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/18/2008 2:10:02 PM   
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    Status: offline     		This has happened to me with several trailers. On my truck, left side stop and turn and right side stop and turn are seperate fuses. Get your owner's manual out and find the fuse panel chart. It will show you where each fuse is and what it controls. Find that fuse and check it. I'm about 99.9% sure that's the problem. As many times as this has happened to me, I can count on that as the problem.

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/18/2008 10:47:44 PM   
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    Status: offline     		same thing happened to my 07 Tundra and it was the fuse.  tundras have  separate fuses for the trailer connections.  ground ? hmmm.  lol...but it took a while for me to find the right fuse...


    btw i meant : SAME THING HAPPENED



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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/19/2008 12:46:46 AM   
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    Status: offline     		It is working fine now on my 08 Tundra but not working right on wife's 04 Xterra.  I don't have right right side blinker with the Xterra?

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 10/19/2008 7:23:01 AM   
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    I found the ground from the wiring connection from the trailer had rusted & I redone it.  Now everything is working like it should for now.


    Keep an eye on it.  The ground is common to the lights on both sides.  It should have affected both sides.  I bet something else close by has an intermittant connection and just got wiggled a little during the process...

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 11/25/2008 11:01:36 PM   
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    Status: offline     		What does it mean when put on 1 side or the other of the blinkers & both blink?  I am now having this problem?  Any ideas?

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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 11/26/2008 6:47:00 AM   
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    Status: offline     		You have a bad ground. 

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  • 04 Kawasaki 700
  • Radiator relocated
  • Hand crafted hood scoop
  • H/L 1" lift kit and springs
  • Stainless dry storage keg
  • 2"Spring spacers
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    RE: Right side of trailer lights not working? - 11/26/2008 10:08:41 AM   
    duckman06


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    From: West Monroe, LA
    Status: offline     		I noticed that my ball was really rusty.  I will have to clean it off.  That is also what I was thinking about the ground but don't think it is the 1 on my trailer because everything else works fine.  I just hope it is the ball on my truck?

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    07 Big Bear 4x4, 2 inch lift, 27inch 589's, ITP Rims, H/L Springs, Jet Kit, Clutch Kit, Snorkel, HMF Pipe, K&N air filter, Warn Winch

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