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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:02:55 PM   
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You might be suprised at some of the stuff people do while they drive. I have stopped people watching movies, playing video games and of course women putting on make up. It never ceases to amaze me.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:08:05 PM   
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well at least it aint but 70 in a  55
my buddy just got clocked at 99 in a 45
about a $400 speeding ticket

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:24:46 PM   
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Did he say, "jail time"?

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:29:31 PM   
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no they actually just gave him a ticket

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:31:04 PM   
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You can't arrest for speeding in most states. Just running at a high rate of speed is not enouhg to charge reckless driving. (at least here it's not)

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 3:32:16 PM   
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in Fl over 30=wreckless driving=jail booking

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 4:07:55 PM   
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The officer made a mistake on the ticket. I would have left it alone and the judge most likely would have thrown it out in court. I was ticketed one morning for not merging out of the right hand lane that was closed to thru traffic at 7 AM. It was actually 6:55 AM when I was ticketed. I told the judge what I was listening to on the radio (talk show). The judge also listens to that program in the morning and knew that it was on from 6:30 to 7. Not only did I get out of it, but half the darn court room stood up and said they were there at the same time and they were released also. I did indeed recognise some of them. Officers are human and the judge will hold them accountable for mistakes.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 7:58:05 PM   
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The trooper is a human just like you are... Peace officers are prone to make a mistake just like everyone else... A clerical error is just that... a clerical error... We are ALL guilty of traveling at a speed higher than the posted (prima fascia) speed limit at one time or another...  My POV is how many times have you been speeding and not received a citation for it? Once in awhile it will inevitably catch up with you. The troop was just doing his job. If you were driving at the posted speed limit you wouldn't have received a citation. As far as the accuracy of the radar unit.... Genesis, Custom Signals, etc... have come a long way from the small microwave boxes that we had to bungee down to the dash. Most manufacturers now use dual doppler units which are a directional and miniature version of the stuff that NOAA and the weather stations use. They are accurate to within +/- 2% deviation when calibrated. Unless you were in the shadow of an 18 wheeler then I wouldn't bother trying to fight it... You will end up stuck with the court costs and the fine for the summons... IMHO

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:05:23 PM   
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There may be more reasons but the number 1 reason for speeding tickets is revenue? plain and simple. if i am wrong i'd like to hear it.

When the Trooper's second line out of his mouth is "just go to court and pay court cost and it wont go on your record" that is just a revenue generator.

now don't get me wrong, if someone is speeding its like gambling.

but when i get pulled over and know for a fact i was not speeding I know its just for revenue. 

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:08:35 PM   
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I just got one for going 48 in 35... it cost me $189.00. I asked to see the officers radar where he clocked me going that fast and he went to check it and said he didnt save it and then he popped off well law says I dont have to show you, my thought was well why did you waste your time looking to see if it was saved? He was a jerk

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:12:18 PM   
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There may be more reasons but the number 1 reason for speeding tickets is revenue? plain and simple. if i am wrong i'd like to hear it.

When the Trooper's second line out of his mouth is "just go to court and pay court cost and it wont go on your record" that is just a revenue generator. 

 
I have to disagree with you on this one... Issuing a citation to a driver is intended to remind them to obey the traffic laws of the jurisdiction that they have violated... In Texas NO LEA can garner more than 15% of it's anual revenue from traffic citations... Also you are talking about the Highway Patrol. Their sole responsibility is for the safety of the motorists on the roadways. They work accidents, traffic enforcement, and narcotics interdiction, and in the more rural areas they are often the only backup to the local Sheriff's Dept. Constable, or local police dept. Also the revenues brought in from citations go to the counties that they are operating out of. The Trooper's salaries is paid from State govt. with no financial ties to the county.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:13:30 PM   
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The last ticket I got I deserved. I was doing 57 in a 40.  I thought I was doing 55 but his radar said 57 and that is probably right.  I went to court and pled guilty. I got a $130 ticket dropped to $80 court costs and it did not go on my record.  If I had paid the ticket, it would have cost an extra $50 and it would have gone on my record. 

Some small towns do use radar as a revenue generator. I don't believe the Highway Patrol does.  Sure the money doesn't hurt their feelings but they are trying to keep from having to work fatal wrecks.  Pulling dead bodies out of mangled wrecks cannot be fun.  If they can write some tickets and slow people down so be it.  After I got that ticket I slowed down considerably.  On that same road last year, a car doing approximately 70 mph ran off the road and overturned.  The state troopers had to go to the nearest town and bring in a doctor to amputate the boy's leg in the car so that they could get him out. He now has a prosthetic leg for the rest of his life.  Is getting somewhere maybe 5 or 10 minutes earlier worth that? 

Thank you to the Tennessee State Trooper who wrote me that ticket if you should be reading this.  You may have prevented me from having a wreck like that. 

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:23:45 PM   
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I have a friend thats a cop and he says that he'll generally give you 5 mph or so on the high end.  Is this true of most of the law enforcement guys on the forum?

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:24:50 PM   
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its just when you see what i have seen there i just really wish someone would be honest and tell it like it is.

when i am doing no more than 50 due to snow and ice and get pulled over and and he says "do you know why i pulled you over?" and i replied yep "67 in a 55" and he replies "so you've done this before" so i proceed to tell him yep but i was not speeding and remind him of the snow and ice he is standing in and inform him of my speed and he remarks well i saw you put your brakes on when i passed you. well DUH because of the snow and ice not because i was speeding he just proceeds to tell me the court line about just cost. you tell me where i was wrong and he was right?

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:34:32 PM   
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its just when you see what i have seen there i just really wish someone would be honest and tell it like it is.

when i am doing no more than 50 due to snow and ice and get pulled over and and he says "do you know why i pulled you over?" and i replied yep "67 in a 55" and he replies "so you've done this before" so i proceed to tell him yep but i was not speeding and remind him of the snow and ice he is standing in and inform him of my speed and he remarks well i saw you put your brakes on when i passed you. well DUH because of the snow and ice not because i was speeding he just proceeds to tell me the court line about just cost. you tell me where i was wrong and he was right?


Well..............you were doing 67 in a 55 on snow and ice.  I'll be honest and tell it like it is. If you drive over the speed limit and especially if you drive too fast in bad road conditions, you WILL get a ticket.  Hopefully, that is the worst that will happen.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:40:38 PM   
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you didn't read what i wrote or you sayin i am being dishonest.

My speedometer which i know was correct due to being clocked two other times within a year so i know its not off, was below 50 long before i saw him and even lower after i saw him. at the time i was driving over 250 miles a day so i know what my speed was and also know why i got that ticket.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 8:45:53 PM   
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Read your own post. I, merely, quoted you. You said something about doing 50. Then, in the next sentence ,you said you were doing 67 in a 55 on snow and ice.  Maybe you were only doing 50. I wasn't there. I don't know.

You should not be doing 50 on snow and ice.  That is reckless and not particularly smart. Police will give tickets for driving too fast for the conditions regardless of the speed limit.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:01:17 PM   
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oh my statement about doing 67 in a 55 was me sayin what he was going to say because i knew there standard line for this stretch of road.

50 at the time was not reckless for the conditions. it was the safest possible hence the reason i wasn't speeding per the norm for my route. the reason this one instance gets me is i know i was NOT speeding. if i were like the other 6-7 times i have been cited then it wouldn't have bothered me one bit. i see it as gambling. i drive w hat is safe for me and the conditions at the time. if i happen to get a ticket then that is on me. on the road at the spot where i got ticketed the Troopers drive from the city to a certain distance which i was at the time then turn around and drive back into town. just to catch speeders. on the day in question i was one of few drivers out and i had just entered the "zone". so he ticketed me. 

put it this way i got a brand new explorer with 300 miles on it and a year and 9 months later it had over 177,000 miles on it. i drove these roads everyday and sped everyday. during this time i got three tickets, the above mentioned one, one other 67 in a 55 on the same stretch of road and one 78 in a 50 zone. so i knew what a safe speed was for me and  the ever changing conditions. seeing the same game being played everyday you learn a few things about how they operate. they drive out tag someone then drive back in. seen it everyday.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:11:56 PM   
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I dont mean any disrespect for the Troopers at all. especially the one that got me for the 78 in the 50 and his words were " did you not see me pass you? It took me over 12 miles to catch you" now that one i thought i was going to jail but....... after my next stop on my route David Copperfield took care of that piece of paper and it disappeared. funny how small towns work. you never know who you work with just might be married to the troopers best friend. funny how things like that work.  i saw him again a few months later at a license check point and he just laughed and  called me by name and said he didnt need to see my license and asked me if i had slowed down. i just said yes sir. smiling the whole time. things like that dont bother me at all but when i know i am not speeding that just burns me up like nothing else.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:18:46 PM   
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The speed limit decreses when its raining,you should be going under the speed limt by at least 5mph,thats what I heard.......

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:24:50 PM   
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The trooper is a human just like you are... Peace officers are prone to make a mistake just like everyone else... A clerical error is just that... a clerical error... We are ALL guilty of traveling at a speed higher than the posted (prima fascia) speed limit at one time or another...

 

My POV is how many times have you been speeding and not received a citation for it? Once in awhile it will inevitably catch up with you.

 

The troop was just doing his job. If you were driving at the posted speed limit you wouldn't have received a citation.

 

As far as the accuracy of the radar unit.... Genesis, Custom Signals, etc... have come a long way from the small microwave boxes that we had to bungee down to the dash. Most manufacturers now use dual doppler units which are a directional and miniature version of the stuff that NOAA and the weather stations use. They are accurate to within +/- 2% deviation when calibrated.

 

Unless you were in the shadow of an 18 wheeler then I wouldn't bother trying to fight it... You will end up stuck with the court costs and the fine for the summons...

 

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OK I learned something today. lol I guess my age and how long it's been since I was writing tickets is showing. I had to check with one of my guys about the rain. He brought his LIDAR (unsure of the spelling) and that thing was sharp. I especially liked the playback feature. I imagine it is unbeatable in court.

Anyways I guess my time off the streets is showing. When I was writing them we had old school Trooper radars that were affected by the defrost, rain and just about everything.
Well atleast the young buck got a laugh out of it.

Scooped..... I guess you had better pay it. Sorry bud.... If it makes you feel better I wouldnt get out in the rain to write a citation.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:39:56 PM   
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My personal opinion is most officers get a power trip being able to write a ticket.  My brother is a local sheriff and he says the same thing.  We are all human, we all make mistakes.  Just because an officer pulls you over doesn't mean they have to write you a ticket.  Go catch all the drug dealers and thieves, give the honest working people a break.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:47:16 PM   
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I agree with the statement of the power trip. when you see a reaction like i have seen just a couple of times then there is something to it.

now i totally disagree with your second statement to a certain extent. when someone speeds they are breaking the law. just like the drug dealer and theives. there is no difference. you are breaking the law. now they could go focus more time on the drug dealers but what is their incentive for that, when they can let them build up cars and SUV's and accumulate a stach of cash then go in and get the cars for their personal use and the money they get to keep. but if they take out to high up or enforce the laws to much then they would run out the dealers and they wouldnt have the fancy cars and such to ride around in with the DARE stickers on them. you cant bite the hand that feeds you.

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:47:26 PM   
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You are kidding me you where driving and reading in the rain no less.. So you going to tell the judge you where reading and not paying attention to the road and thats why you where doing 70 in a 55..???  lol

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:51:09 PM   
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Im not tryin to be an AS* but bein in a wreck before because of a wreckless speeder.and also bein that im goin to be a State Police officer in a couple years .just admit to yourself that you werent payin attention and that you were speeding. Either way 70 on a 50 or 70 on a 55 its still speeding..and wreckless..Just pay the ticket and get on with your life..Like i said im not tryin to start anything with you but come on you know it was your mistake and you should just pay for it..

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 9:54:36 PM   
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Seeing as how I am laying down the uniform altogether and will only be keeping up my TCLEOSE license online (so that 15 years of my life doesn't go down the drain) I'll let you in on some personal insight... As far as speeders go... I worked interdiction most of my career so I was only looking for one thing... I made it a habit to have two traffic violations before the stop... ie. speeding (my rule was 11miles an hour over), and fail to signal lane change, fail to maintain single lane of travel, following too closely, etc.... The only people that got a citation from me received one because they were being a butt... Typically, if someone was up front and honest with me they got off with a verbal... If they wanted to argue or tell me that my equipment was faulty... then they had the pen put to paper... As for showing the speed on the unit... For my safety (weapons at various access points from the drivers seat), I always refused to lock the speed of the violator so that I wouldn't have to deal with them saying "I wanna see how fast I was going" The best chance you have in a traffic stop is to be honest and up front with the officer... If you had your head up your butt and weren't paying attention... tell him/her the truth... They will more than likely get a laugh out of it and brighten their day... Thus getting you off the hook with a written or verbal warning...  Lesson for the day.... DON'T stereotype a police officer unless you want to be treated the same way... Treat them as a person and be thankful that they are putting their butt on the line so you can sleep safer at night!!! the pay SUCKS bad enough... Which is the primary reason I am giving it up...  I'll be driving an ROV and sitting up on ship... Much safer and get to see what's beneath the waves down deep...

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RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 10:13:59 PM   
05BlueGrizzly


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Joined: 9/20/2004
From: Southern Middle TN
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If they were all like you it would be great for us all.  but everyone on here knows that there is all kinds out there. I dont stereotype a single one. they have all been different to me.

let me put an instance out there and get responses

say its 11:40 at night. very light traffic. 2 lanes at a stop light after the light the two lanes merge to one in about 1000 feet. with 45 being the limit.

from the cops perspective he sees a truck accelerating to get in front of another vehicle. and he clocks the truck doing lets say 57.

say when you get to the driver he makes this comment.

" officer i just got off work, the work is right beside the light, and i was beside the other vehicle and when we took off we were going the same speed so i slowed to allow the merge and the other driver slowed also, so i sped up and they stayed right beside me. this happens about 3 times and with the lane ending I knew i could out accelerate them and not wreck." i am expecting anything but what he said to me.

the officer says "so by your own admission i could add drag racing to the citation". that just blew me away.  so i just shut up after that cause i knew there was no reasoning with him. later on while trying to get some help with it everyone i talked to said that guy was such a- well i cant say on this family site- anyway no one would even attempt to help make it go away due to his reputation. i had to pay $87 for that one.

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(in reply to gizmotexcop)
Post #: 57
RE: Another speeding ticket - 8/26/2008 10:25:13 PM   
jdogg


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Joined: 7/30/2005
From: Southwest, LA
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Every time I get pulled over I am nice to the officer because I know that a comment is wrote on his part of the ticket so if you try to get it fixed.  About two weeks ago I got pulled over.  I knew it was for window tint, I got out of my truck walked up to the officer and told him I had a pistol in between my seat and console and he told me he pulled me over for tint.  I told him I knew it was illegal that I had chronic headaches and had an affadavit in with the state police for it.  He asked me how dark