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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/23/2008 10:30:43 PM

blacknbeastly420

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my friend has vamps and can hang with me all day long
i dont like my outlaws for some reason
and 589s will NOT pass vamps

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 3:16:59 AM

RedRum410

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me i like laws i rode on the tsl vampires and the laws pull so much harder in the mud

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 8:59:22 AM

B.W.L 500

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quote:

ORIGINAL: blacknbeastly420

my friend has vamps and can hang with me all day long
i dont like my outlaws for some reason
and 589s will NOT pass vamps

Ive been there,and i passed vamps,dont care if you dont want to belive it,ive done it.Outlaws will pass vamps also.Im done with it....

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 9:34:52 AM

bear09

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i also have ran 589's and they have got to be one of the best trail tire there is but they cake up in thick mud and i WILL run circles around them with my vamps...

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 9:55:38 AM

got wake?

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there are too many variables to say that one tire is better than another all the time. i've seen my buddy on his arctic cat 300 and vamps go through a hole that my other buddy with a renegade 800 and 589's got stuck in. then i've seen where the renegade blows through a hole that the arctic cat got stuck in. that's just how it works. i will say that i have yet to get stuck in a hole that my buddies made it through

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 10:01:29 AM

bear09

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agreed with got wake? every tire will perform jus as good as the next in certain situations... some tires jus perform better in more situations than the other... if that makes sense

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03 Big Bear 400(Goin under the knife)
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black itp delta's
hmf utility
hl clutch kit
jet kit and snorkel

Dads:
2007 Popo 500 H.O.
26in mud lite xtr's

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 11:47:34 AM

Lawnboy1988

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The rider has quite a bit to do with how capable the machine is as well. That being said, I would gladly run either Laws or Vamps on my bike with no hesitation!

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 1:40:02 PM

CRSBear400

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True, you can't really compare what your bike with this tire did vs that bike with that tire. You have to run the different tires on the same bike to really get a feel for which one does what.
B.W.L 500, i'm not gonna discredit your findings and say that you don't know what your talking about. You may very well have walked around a guy w/Vamps while you were on 589's. But, I promise you it wasn't because of the tires the two of you were running. I don't claim to know it all and I don't think my opinion is any more valuable than the next man's. But, I tend to believe I kinda know what i'm talking about. After all, I was running bikes through the mud in '92, the year you were born.

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 2:55:44 PM

B.W.L 500

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yeah,im not saying vampires suck,im saying what happened from my personal experience.Ive had alot of experiences since I started going to real rides with like 20-30 people instead of riding with one or 2 people.Alot of people dont belive what I did,and im perfectly fine with that.But one question,why was it not because of the tires we were running?I think weight might of had a little to do with it,but I mean,basically it was tires that mattered,reguardless.....

I know youve had more experience than me,CRS bear,and I respect that,but we all have our experiences I guess.

Good luck with them vampires blacknbeasty420.......

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 9:46:58 PM

blacknbeastly420

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thanks guys
i appreciate everyones opinions
as soon as i get my next pay check in 2 weeks
i will be ordering the vamps
and goin to pick up my atv from the shop

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2008 honda 420 rancher fi
26x12X12 laws on all four corners
some ugly a$$ ITP rims
homemade tunes w/ipod
snorkeled to the pod
HMF utility series w/vector end cap
uni air filter
PCIII

soon to come:
30" mudlites
some kind of clean rims
and a one of a kind snorkel

"its always best to get out while your on top"

"even a broken clock is right twice a day"

(in reply to B.W.L 500)

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/24/2008 10:36:18 PM

BruteForce20

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quote:

ORIGINAL: blacknbeastly420

did anyone else see that video
where a can am 800 had 29.5 laws
and a honda 300 had 27x12 vampires
and i am pretty sure the one with laws was struggling
the one with vamps did it with ease
so until you have a video proving that "laws will eat vampiers alive"

i wont belive it

Well it also depends on the rider!! I would stay with the Laws!

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RE: wide vamps or laws? - 8/25/2008 10:37:01 AM

outdrsmn82

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quote:

ORIGINAL: B.W.L 500

I can run circles around them vampires with my 589's,and ive done it too......where a big bear with some 27" vampires got stuck i passed with my 26" 589's with 200 lbs on my bike.,heck I even backed up through what he couldnt pass through,and it was in some nasty pb mud......

lol thats some funny balogna right there.
you prolly have a retarted friend like i had who didnt know how to ride. i KNOW for a fact that they cant outperform them in mud. i outdo the execs and they outdo the 589s.

i love the laws too but i wouldnt say that they slaughter the laws thats a far overrated statement.
fact- vamps easier to turn over ride smoother lighter and climb better.
VAMPS all the way man. IMHO.
GO VAMPS.

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