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ORIGINAL: ragginrancher2008

tell him to wait for the 09 hondas to come out before he purchases a grizzly.. yeah i said purchase a grizzly! only reason being is honda hasnt given us honda riders any hope of a low gear and locker in the rincon but the big red did get a locker and its an 09 model with same engine and tranny as the rincon. get this, it tops out @ 39 so the big red has some low gears somewhere! i say just wait for the 09 honda lineup to come out in september and if honda doesnt impress,  definately get the grizz! jmo

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Scooped_Kawasaki

Quick, go get yourself clipped and take yourself out of the gene pool.

(in reply to ragginrancher2008)

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ORIGINAL: Conradgrizz660

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ORIGINAL: grizz31

I agree with yall.  thanks for the replys. 

So what you all are saying is the rincon is just really under powered.  I will let him know.

I told him the same thing yesterday but he had trouble beliveing that a 680 and a 686 (700) would have that much diffreance between the two.  The rincons also have ES so why cant you just put it in first for the low gear?

Thats a good question?
Grizzly 700 HP-45.6
Curb Weight-600 lbs
Rincon 680 HP-38.5
Curb Weight-648 lbs
Now thats a big factor between the two. As for the low gear. When you put the 700 in low you can fill the torque, it fills as if you can only go up to about 10 mph, the Rincon is set up like a 3spd tansmisson like a car. you start off in 1st and end in 3rd. 1st gear is not set up like a low gear. Its hard to explain.

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ORIGINAL: mac102004

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ORIGINAL: Conradgrizz660

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ORIGINAL: grizz31

I agree with yall.  thanks for the replys. 

So what you all are saying is the rincon is just really under powered.  I will let him know.

I told him the same thing yesterday but he had trouble beliveing that a 680 and a 686 (700) would have that much diffreance between the two.  The rincons also have ES so why cant you just put it in first for the low gear?

Thats a good question?
Grizzly 700 HP-45.6
Curb Weight-600 lbs
Rincon 680 HP-38.5
Curb Weight-648 lbs
Now thats a big factor between the two. As for the low gear. When you put the 700 in low you can fill the torque, it fills as if you can only go up to about 10 mph, the Rincon is set up like a 3spd tansmisson like a car. you start off in 1st and end in 3rd. 1st gear is not set up like a low gear. Its hard to explain.

The Grizzly's dry weight is 600lbs, same as the Rincons. The 648lbs curb wieght includes all fluids and battery.

If he's going to run 28"+ mud tires and play in mud holes all day I would advise against a Rincon. It will spin 27's stock no problem, but if he's not willing to come down to that size tire or mod it and run 28" tires the Grizzly is a better choice.

$100 belt vs. transmission? I'm still waiting to see proof of a failed Rincon transmission, I've heard it 1000 times over, the transmissions are junk, they break easy, they are replacing them left and right, etc. Never seen proof. Most of these "catastrophic transmission failures" aren't even failures at all. The owner puts the wrong oil in and all of a sudden the transmission slips and its "toast", when in reality all he would have to do is change to the right oil.

The Big Red is geared lower than the Rincon, common sense tells me that. It weighs 1430lbs, and has a towing capacity of 1200lbs. Total wieght for the drivetrain to move, including two 200lbs passengers, 3030lbs I've towed that much (on wheels) with my Rincon, thumb right to the bars it will barely move, let alone do 39mph. Rincon's max weight to move is 650lbs + 850lbs +200lbs = 1700lbs.

POPO800EFI, the 800 Polaris isn't that hard to beat, the 650 Can-am, 800HO and 800R Can-am Outlander and Renegade, the Brute Force 750, and the Thundercat will all beat it.

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ORIGINAL: meatman

no one ever said the grizz wouldn't spin bigger tires than the rincon, but my rincon is a great bike for mud and trail and will smoke the other two grizz i ride with. but like i said before the grizz is a better mud bike.

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$100 belt vs. transmission? I'm still waiting to see proof of a failed Rincon transmission, I've heard it 1000 times over, the transmissions are junk, they break easy, they are replacing them left and right, etc

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ORIGINAL: meatman

the ones i ride w/are also 660's and they really ain't that bad, but  i do smoke them. BUT, like i said i have never ran a 700. also they are stock i am not.

because i want MORE POWER. or mabey i will wait a year or so to see if honda does ketch up w/ everyone else and built a bad ****, balls to the wall mud bike. any way you yamaha guys keep it real and keep those bels dry, haha.