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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 4:50:56 PM   
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CRAP I BOUGHT ONE TO BEFOR I READ THIS.NOT BROKE YET BUT SOUNDS LIKE IT WILL

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 5:00:44 PM   
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I don't see why people a helping CV man out... if something is marketed as HEAVY DUTY, and it can't hold up to factory specs, who is in the wrong here?  People who expect heavy duty axles?  Doesn't make since.

CVMan, armortech, american CV... all **** axles and cv's, don't waste your money.  Factory axles hold up better, and **** and turner are the best.


As I said previously, I have had great luck with his axles.  I'm not "helping him out".  Just saying that I have been more than satisfied with his axles and would purchase them again,


Well its good to see the massive power of your 300 didn't snap these HEAVY DUTY axles..

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 6:33:54 PM   
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I don't see why people a helping CV man out... if something is marketed as HEAVY DUTY, and it can't hold up to factory specs, who is in the wrong here?  People who expect heavy duty axles?  Doesn't make since.

CVMan, armortech, american CV... all sh!t axles and cv's, don't waste your money.  Factory axles hold up better, and **** and turner are the best.


As I said previously, I have had great luck with his axles.  I'm not "helping him out".  Just saying that I have been more than satisfied with his axles and would purchase them again,


Well its good to see the massive power of your 300 didn't snap these HEAVY DUTY axles..


mine did

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 6:37:54 PM   
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I purchased a half shaft from him a few years ago and had the same results.  I did not have have 5 hours on it and it snapped clean in half.  It looked like I took a chop saw to it. Anyway, called the guy after some back and forth he did warranty the half shaft.  After I recieved it, I sold it and used the proceeds to buy an ape axle.  Just a note. I finally broke my first ape in 3 years at the last mud nats

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 9:44:20 PM   
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I don't see why people a helping CV man out... if something is marketed as HEAVY DUTY, and it can't hold up to factory specs, who is in the wrong here?  People who expect heavy duty axles?  Doesn't make since.

CVMan, armortech, american CV... all **** axles and cv's, don't waste your money.  Factory axles hold up better, and **** and turner are the best.


As I said previously, I have had great luck with his axles.  I'm not "helping him out".  Just saying that I have been more than satisfied with his axles and would purchase them again,


Well its good to see the massive power of your 300 didn't snap these HEAVY DUTY axles..


My 300 has plenty of power for my applications and it works when I want it to.  Unlike someone's brute that seems to find a new problem every few days,   All I said was I would buy them again, they have worked out for me great so far.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 10:05:04 PM   
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I think it would be unfair to limit this post to just those who have had problems.  This is an open discussion and those who read it can take the information provided and make their decisions based on that info.  I think the feedback here speaks for itself.  Mr. Petry is definately in the minority, but he is entitled to be so.  To each his own.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 10:12:23 PM   
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I think it would be unfair to limit this post to just those who have had problems.  This is an open discussion and those who read it can take the information provided and make their decisions based on that info.  I think the feedback here speaks for itself.  Mr. Petry is definately in the minority, but he is entitled to be so.  To each his own.


Thank you!  I'm not saying his axles are made to withstand big lifted bikes with 32" tires but if you have a small bike with no lift and not to agressive tires than his axles are just fine. 

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 10:15:30 PM   
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I think it would be unfair to limit this post to just those who have had problems.  This is an open discussion and those who read it can take the information provided and make their decisions based on that info.  I think the feedback here speaks for itself.  Mr. Petry is definately in the minority, but he is entitled to be so.  To each his own.


Thank you!  I'm not saying his axles are made to withstand big lifted bikes with 32" tires but if you have a small bike with no lift and not to agressive tires than his axles are just fine. 


Obviousley not as caleb (oldtrx) broke them on his 300

I hope people use this thread to make an informed decision. The majority of the replies speak for themselves.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 10:39:40 PM   
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I think it would be unfair to limit this post to just those who have had problems.  This is an open discussion and those who read it can take the information provided and make their decisions based on that info.  I think the feedback here speaks for itself.  Mr. Petry is definately in the minority, but he is entitled to be so.  To each his own.


Thank you!  I'm not saying his axles are made to withstand big lifted bikes with 32" tires but if you have a small bike with no lift and not to agressive tires than his axles are just fine. 


Obviousley not as caleb (oldtrx) broke them on his 300

I hope people use this thread to make an informed decision. The majority of the replies speak for themselves.


He rides a little bit harder than I do.  I trail ride with some mud here and there.  I don't know what caused his to break but mine have held up great with mudbugs. 

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/1/2008 10:41:01 PM   
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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 1:13:24 AM   
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I have been reading this post from the begining and I just want to say that I have replaced several halfshafts from cv restoration on stock bikes and had no trouble at all.  On the other hand one of my friends has a 700 popo with the two inch lift and HL spring on the front and he bought the (heavy duty) axels from the cv man and he broke about three sets within the first 15 minutes of riding.  It was strange that the cv joints did not break but the shafts did.  I believe that the Heavy Duty shafts are too brittle or hardened too much because they broke quicker that the stock cv joints did.  I will say that he told me that the customer service was good that is why they sent him three sets of axles before he went on and got monkeys.  I still believe that the Heavy Duty shafts are too hard.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 9:23:34 AM   
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Bigcountry1011 Thanks for setting the record straight. We make our axles like o.e. just beefier! However, this also points out what I have to deal with on warranties, 3 axles warrantied (at my expense) and I'm sure they had to have insisted there bike was not lifted and it was totally stock (maybe bigger tires). And he was was just going straight down the road hardly gettin' on it. This is an example of what I hear on axle breakage issues. But as the truth comes out later, as you can see here,  I'm the one that doesn't get dealt with honestly and it cost me and money out of my pocket. If people would just be honest up front and instead of trying to use these axles on vehicles that have been lifted or modified we would not be having these discussion.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 2:20:15 PM   
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Danny, one thing to consider is being a little more "specific" in your warranty statement. 

I know that as a business, the less specific the warranty statement is, the more you can get away with not warrantying by saying that the warranty "implies" this and that.  That is just a way to cover your butt and I don't see it is fair compared to spelling out the warranty statement in greater detail.

Like stated before, when I was told that you won't cover my rebuild kit because you didn't know the condition of the outer cup when the repair kit was installed, I was understanding based on my own knowledge of the subject.  BUT you will get people who take your warranty statement for every word and when it states "all parts", that includes cv joint repair kits. 

It's basically a fail safe for you because in my case, when the rebuild kit shattered it wiped out the rest of the joint and the splines on the half shaft.  Cha-ching!  Instant money for you considering the fact that I already had money invested in your product.  Granted, you did offer to replace the cv-joint at a discounted price, and that's why I consider you a good man to deal with.

However, I can't say that I totally agree with you on the way you go about warranty business, but I will let our differences be differences and pursue the fact no more than simply recommending you think about explaining your warranty details better than just blindsiding people by saying the warranty, although never clearly stated, implies that it is not covered.

Just my opinion on the matter.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 2:34:49 PM   
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I agree and I will be working on getting a more detailed warranty listed. However, with nearly 2000 listings on Ebay it will take some time to implement. Thanks your input is appreciated.
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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 3:53:03 PM   
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Bigcountry1011 Thanks for setting the record straight. We make our axles like o.e. just beefier! However, this also points out what I have to deal with on warranties, 3 axles warrantied (at my expense) and I'm sure they had to have insisted there bike was not lifted and it was totally stock (maybe bigger tires). And he was was just going straight down the road hardly gettin' on it. This is an example of what I hear on axle breakage issues. But as the truth comes out later, as you can see here,  I'm the one that doesn't get dealt with honestly and it cost me and money out of my pocket. If people would just be honest up front and instead of trying to use these axles on vehicles that have been lifted or modified we would not be having these discussion.


What the heck is not getting past you?  You market "Heavy Duty" axles that can barely take a lift, or even aftermarket tires. That IS NOT heavy duty, but very much IS lying. 

I'm being honest, when I buy an axle that says "Heavy Duty" and put it on my ATV with 27 inch tires (2 over factory) and NO LIFT, and snap the u-joint in the FIRST HOUR OF RIDING....  I tend to not believe the "Heavy Duty" quality aspect.  Do you know how annoying it is to get the roll pin out of the old style Polaris axles?  I had to do this 3 times within a 24 hour period because of a cheap, "heavy duty" axle I bought.  I still can't stress how pissed I am the joint broke the FIRST RIDE. 

Your product, my friend, is not being honest.  Don't market it as heavy duty... market it as light duty and tell your customer base the truth.  It is very much light duty.  Tell them to go down 3 tire sizes, don't use 4WD or diff lock, drive on dirt roads, and shove a sock in the air intake.  That would make the axles hold up for at least 3 rides.

I'm not bashing Jordan's choice, but his applications, on a 3wd, 15 hp atv are not what I personally would consider heavy duty.  I had a 300, they aren't heavy duty.  It's hard to break a 300 axle.  If it happens once every 10 times on a 300, that is even a shoddy axle.  Only about 50% of the time is power even going to both front tires. 

Anybody reading this thread, you have 3 axle choices... Factory, G*rilla and T*rner.  Maybe HL in a few months.  Don't waste your money on cheap, chinese made "Heavy Duty" axles.

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 4:25:11 PM   
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^very good post!

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 4:45:35 PM   
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Your product, my friend, is not being honest.  Don't market it as heavy duty... market it as light duty and tell your customer base the truth.  It is very much light duty.  Tell them to go down 3 tire sizes, don't use 4WD or diff lock, drive on dirt roads, and shove a sock in the air intake.  That would make the axles hold up for at least 3 rides.



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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 4:51:22 PM   
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Agreed with J_Fred on the Light duty axle situation

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RE: CV MaN Axles ****!!!! - 9/2/2008 5:02:24 PM   
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