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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 12:08:14 AM

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i'm not totally sure on the sheave. i started with the purple spring which i like a whole lot. i just recieved the white spring which comes in some of their kits. i will try it as soon as i get a chance.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 12:30:59 AM

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Ok so the are the Kodiak weights lighter than the Grizzly 700 weights? Is that what causes the bike to have a higher stall and then the secondary spring figuratively lowers the gear ration once you are moving?

If that is the case and all (8) Kodiak 400 weights are too light and it causes too much stall than could you use (4) Kodiak 400's and then maybe (4) Grizzly 660 weights? That is if they are lighter (or heavier, whichever direction the weights go). Does anyone know the weights of all the different weights from different machines?

Am I right with my thoughts on this?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 12:39:01 AM

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it's is not so much of a stall more like the clutch will wind out higher and quicker. most of the stall is going to be in the wet clutch springs.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 1:40:44 AM

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I may upgrade to the purple spring.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:24:51 AM

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400 weights or 450 weights for grizz 700???

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:41:03 AM

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the same question for me also??? man CRAIGGRIZZ700, it looks like we want the same thing but no one wants to give us a straight answer..lol..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:45:10 AM

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quote:

so which weights to use the 450 or 400?? by changing 4 700 stock weights out, will that all it needs?

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thats what i was woundering about which weights to use 450 or 400????

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400 weights or 450 weights for grizz 700???

The part num for the both the 400 Grizz and 450 Kodiak weights is 5gh-17632-00-00. They are the same.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:45:30 AM

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hear that..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:55:51 AM

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good enough for me...i just go ahead an get the 450's like i had planned..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 10:15:10 AM

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oh, being the part number's or the same does that mean the weight or the same also??? sorry if that sounds dumb..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 11:10:01 AM

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same part number means same part... so they use the same part on both bikes.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 11:45:01 AM

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I've ran most weight combos...

None of them compared to the HL Extreme clutch kit I put in this 700 with 31's. That with a Dyna CDI and you're good to go.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 11:49:40 AM

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i got the hl extreme clutch kit in my grizz 700.. so its best not to put 450 weight GEARSLAYER???

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 3:05:06 PM

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I've ran most weight combos...

None of them compared to the HL Extreme clutch kit I put in this 700 with 31's. That with a Dyna CDI and you're good to go.

does the dynatek CDI make a big difference?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 4:25:37 PM

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Please tell me one thing there 8 weights! if i want to change 4 which ones i have to replace? (one in two weights which are near by or i have change two weights together (which are near by?) i have grizz 700 and i want to swap 4 weights from kodiak) I will try to make a scheme of weights
700450
700450 700450
700450 700450 Right?
700450

P.S. I have 28 mudlites mounted on itp beadlocks. I use my grizz in very hard conditions i never use low gear (just don't have time to shift) Which configurations do you recomend me to use?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 5:37:57 PM

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i changed everyother weight and i can tell a little difference.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 9:16:46 PM

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OK stock weight for a grizzly 700 is 168.0 grams. 8- 450 weights are 112.0 grams(too extreme) I'm running 4-660 weights and 4-450 weights @ 128.4 good combo for 29.5 outlaws 10's and 12".

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 10:00:45 PM

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Please tell me one thing there 8 weights! if i want to change 4 which ones i have to replace? (one in two weights which are near by or i have change two weights together (which are near by?) i have grizz 700 and i want to swap 4 weights from kodiak) I will try to make a scheme of weights
700450
700450 700450
700450 700450 Right?
700450

P.S. I have 28 mudlites mounted on itp beadlocks. I use my grizz in very hard conditions i never use low gear (just don't have time to shift) Which configurations do you recomend me to use?

If by hard conditions, you mean nasty mud, then you'd better find time to shift. There is no configuration that will help "High" in the mud, because that's not what "High" is for. "Low" is for mud, hill climbing, etc and "High" is for trail riding.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 10:05:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: grizz454

OK stock weight for a grizzly 700 is 168.0 grams. 8- 450 weights are 112.0 grams(too extreme) I'm running 4-660 weights and 4-450 weights @ 128.4 good combo for 29.5 outlaws 10's and 12".

What is the part number for the 660 weights?

So......
Stock 700 weights weigh 21 grams each
Stock 660 weights weigh 18.1 grams each
Stock 450/400 weights weigh 14 grams each

That is off of your measurements

That sounds about what I want and then a different secondary spring and I think I would be cookin' with fire! I have 29.5x10s (F) and 29.5x12 (R) on the way and I am considering very VERY hard about trading the 10's for 12's. I fell in love with the 12" all around look with my Mud B's

What secondary spring would be recomended?

This a good thread you's guys lol

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/10/2008 10:10:59 PM

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Part number for 660 weights - 5KM-17632-00-00 - $3.36 per weight,,,,,

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/11/2008 12:50:59 AM

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i set my bike up for trail riding and mud, lots of mud. i am running the 4 stock weights and 4 kodiak weights with the purple epi spring. i love it but i want a little mor grunt. so i am about to change to the white epi spring. then i will be playing with different weight combos. i am running 12s in rear and 10s in front and love them. i thought about getting into mud bogging and raced a little, but let;s face it for the class we are in we just don't have what it takes to dominate. so this is why i set my bike up to dominate on the trails and be the recovery bike for those that can take us in the bog. it is a good feeling pulling the number one race bike out of the mud.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/11/2008 5:57:37 PM

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i have the yellow spring in mine an about to add some 450 weights to see if it will give me a little more grunt... hope it dose, because i hate having to change weights around to get what i want.. just want it for mud an some trail ridding..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/11/2008 6:53:21 PM

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i set my bike up for trail riding and mud, lots of mud. i am running the 4 stock weights and 4 kodiak weights with the purple epi spring. i love it but i want a little mor grunt. so i am about to change to the white epi spring. then i will be playing with different weight combos. i am running 12s in rear and 10s in front and love them. i thought about getting into mud bogging and raced a little, but let;s face it for the class we are in we just don't have what it takes to dominate. so this is why i set my bike up to dominate on the trails and be the recovery bike for those that can take us in the bog. it is a good feeling pulling the number one race bike out of the mud.

Let us know how that white spring works? I'll wait to see if I get either the purple or white spring.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/11/2008 7:17:02 PM

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So what do the purple and white springs change? Which one is supposed to give more low-end? I couldn't care less about top speed, I very rarely go over 30mph...

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 1:22:59 AM

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i know that the purple spring gives a small amount of stall, not very noticable, but it is very strong. low gear at around 5 to 10 mph goosing it in low will bring the tires of the ground. in high, i can punch the throttle and bring the tires off the ground. I love the purple spring. i just think that the white spring will bring much more torque in the bottom end. i think that the white spring is what they sell in the extreme kit. i might ne wrong. i know that i don't want to change out the wet springs just because it is more of a headache than it is worth. i just want maximum power to the ground. some one tell me if i'm wrong??? tell me what you think.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 6:28:31 AM

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well i got my extreme clutch kit from HL an the spring is yellow, my buddy got the same clutch kit but from Extreme offroad an his is white... dont know why the springs or different colors.... i think i might trying a purple spring as well with some weights...

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 7:02:05 AM

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your yellow (gold) spring already has a higher load rae than the purple spring. so i think that if you were to go to the purple you would just be taking a step backwards. i think you should try playing around with the different weight combos first.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 7:11:02 AM

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thank for the INFO!!! Belly2878... i do that with the weights... i would have hated to take a step back

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2"HL lift kit
1" wheel spacers
(4) monkey axles
Ricohet skid plate
Hmf swamp series exhaust
UNI airfilter
Power Commander
HL extreme clutch kit
yamaha front bumper
2.5 warn winch
fully custom snorkel
(radiator relocation an catvos lift coming soon)

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 12:51:54 PM

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i know that the purple spring gives a small amount of stall, not very noticable, but it is very strong. low gear at around 5 to 10 mph goosing it in low will bring the tires of the ground. in high, i can punch the throttle and bring the tires off the ground. I love the purple spring. i just think that the white spring will bring much more torque in the bottom end. i think that the white spring is what they sell in the extreme kit. i might ne wrong. i know that i don't want to change out the wet springs just because it is more of a headache than it is worth. i just want maximum power to the ground. some one tell me if i'm wrong??? tell me what you think.

So the White spring would be more of what I am looking for? It should provide more low-end than the purple?

When I go to pick up my Grizz from the dealership I am going to order (4) 450 weights and (4) 660 weights, I just hope that is something they carry instock...

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/12/2008 1:54:12 PM

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Not real sure that the white spring is what you want. i think that if your riding style is mostly mud, then the white spring should be the way to go. your dealer more than likely will not have the weights in stock, but they can order them and have them there in no time.

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