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ORIGINAL: Unstuckable
The people that are complaining about the lack of power this thing will have are the exact people Honda IS NOT TARGETING for sales. Since when has Honda ever put out a machine that competes with Brutes, AC's, Can Am's, or Grizzly's? Never. The Rincon was made to compete in the big bore atv market, not the horsepower market.
Those that complain have not yet realized Honda's plan over the past 20 years. They are not looking to be the best in every field, they are looking to have the best overall quality. And to have the best overall quality, you need to give up a little here and there. Ever wonder why Foremans have a much better reliablity rating then, say, a Brute? Despite thier problems, they've been around forever and still have people lining up out the doors for them.
I think this Big Red will sell exactly as Honda predicts, depite it's looks and drivetrain. They have targeted the crowd that isn't looking for an 800cc PoPo or 750cc Kawi so they can spin 29.5"s. They targeted the working class and gave them a very well enginered, reliable side by side. I'm still not convinced I'd buy one just yet, but I still say good job to Honda.
Not to bash or anything but if the honda forman was a 750 v-twin you would have alot more problems. It dont hever the power to tear things up like these big bores do. Thats why they have belt driven machines to have the weekest link. Id rather burn my belt up then have to replace hydrolic clutches or the whole transmission in the Rincon. Hondas are fine machines dont get me wrong im just sayin thats why there durability is where its at . And almost everyone on this forum with brutes have 29.5- 31" outlaws so ofcourse its going to break stuff.
That is probably the main reason they don't have a bike that people want to put 32's on. If they did, they would have a bike that people tore up and could call un-reliable, like people do the brute. Pretty smart on their part if you ask me. They are maintaining their reliability name with enough power to satisfy most riders. Hence the reason they are staying on top with less features and less power than the competition - reliability.
I can see the conversation now -
Farmer A has a Rancher 350
Farmer B has a Brute 750
Farmer B says "man I have to bring my bike into the dealer every 200 miles for something. I had to have some things called buss connectors fixed because the thing wouldn't even run right. The motor had to be rebuilt because of a spun bearing, won't idle right in the cold... blah blah blah..."
Farmer A says I haven't done anything... haven't even changed the oil in my rancher for 2000 miles and it works for me every day.
Farmer B says, I'm going to have to go back to honda, I don't need this big brute anyway.
Both farmer A and farmer B now tell all their friends this story about farmer B going back to honda and how the brute needs constant attention. Word gets out, and everyone remembers how maintenance free a honda is. Most people like that.
Now to back up the Brute... If you want to put more work and maintenance into it, it will last almost as long as a honda. But if you have both bikes and don't change the oil in either of them for 3000 miles (Like a-lot of people do), the brute will break, and the honda will be fine.
Honda's are underpowered, and don't have all the bells and whistles, and that's why they're reliable. And Honda has shown that you don't need all that stuff to stay on top, and that reliability must be more important to people.
I will not own a honda as my next quad, I am just laying out what I think the reasoning is behind honda's underpowered quads.
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