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TEXMudder -> pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 8:58:29 PM)

I posted a few pictures from the 2009 model year event that I went to.  Had plenty of seat time so if there are questions fire away!  Not all of my photos are posted as they were for a magazine photo shoot.

http://www.ansley.net/pictures.php?year=2008&thumbride=102#ride102

More of my photos can be seen on the Side X Side Action website.



GWC -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:09:23 PM)

So is it a V twin or a parrell twin..  seems no one gives the same answer..


lol never mind i see it for my self, good pix [:)]



rubicon03 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:15:35 PM)

looks like changing the belt could get interesting.



IgottaWS6 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:18:29 PM)

A bit dissappointing that the air and cvt intakes are only seat high.  I was hoping they'd get routed up where the old fuel tank is (similar to my Grizz).   Also dissappointing that there's not some sort of front storage compartment without purchasing an accessory: those things are great on the classic series.

I guess I'd just like your overall riding impressions and comparisons to the current top offerings out there (Grizzly 700, Outlander 800, Sportsman 800).



TEXMudder -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:25:45 PM)

It is an inline twin firing at 270 degrees so it is no longer alternating like it did.

Yes the air intakes were a big let down for me.

The power was great.  As far as comparing, well...thats entirely opinion.  I cant stand Grizzlies (yes I owned one).  No real comparison there in my opinion.  The Outlander to me is more of a trail oriented quad and just not my cup of tea.



James Chapman -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:27:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: IgottaWS6

A bit dissappointing that the air and cvt intakes are only seat high.  I was hoping they'd get routed up where the old fuel tank is (similar to my Grizz).   Also dissappointing that there's not some sort of front storage compartment without purchasing an accessory: those things are great on the classic series.

I guess I'd just like your overall riding impressions and comparisons to the current top offerings out there (Grizzly 700, Outlander 800, Sportsman 800).


Everyone is gonna snorkle it so the stock intke height doesnt matter

And the front storage box on the old style always got mud and water in them.....This one has storage in the rear..Who knows if it is gonan keep dry though.


Now that i see some worth a crap pictures i think it looks good...Needs some 29.5's and a snorkle with a 6in lift



TEXMudder -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:31:51 PM)

Not everyone is going to snorkel.  The old ones were high enough that you didnt have to snorkel it unless you were going to get real deep.  I have my 800 unsnorkeled and go deep enough.  The 850 will not go as deep.

The rear storage box is about the same as the old ones...it will get wet.



Voodoo -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:40:20 PM)

Not a V...it is Parallel...........



IgottaWS6 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:42:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: TEXMudder

It is an inline twin firing at 270 degrees so it is no longer alternating like it did.

Yes the air intakes were a big let down for me.

The power was great.  As far as comparing, well...thats entirely opinion.  I cant stand Grizzlies (yes I owned one).  No real comparison there in my opinion.  The Outlander to me is more of a trail oriented quad and just not my cup of tea.


Thanks for the reply.  I'll probably get flamed for this, but did you get a top speed?  Also, how did acceleration feel?  Did you ride the power steering model?



wayner147 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:47:34 PM)

i already want to snorkel it. how did the weight feel? nice to handle in tails and in the mud?



Roofer750 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 9:59:10 PM)

Nice pics. Thanks. Clears up a lot of the questions here, but I thought it was an alternate firing engine like a V-twin.



TEXMudder -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 11:53:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: IgottaWS6
Thanks for the reply.  I'll probably get flamed for this, but did you get a top speed?  Also, how did acceleration feel?  Did you ride the power steering model?


No top speed tests nor would I have a desire to get there.  Acceleration was noticably faster than the 800.  Yes I rode power steering model.  It was mind blowing how easy it steered.



TEXMudder -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 11:55:10 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: wayner147

i already want to snorkel it. how did the weight feel? nice to handle in tails and in the mud?


I cant say I picked it up.  [:D]  It felt great on the trails.



TEXMudder -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/24/2008 11:55:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Roofer750
Nice pics. Thanks. Clears up a lot of the questions here, but I thought it was an alternate firing engine like a V-twin.


It is alternate firing at 270 degrees like a v-twin would do.  It is not a 180 degree as it used to be.



TEXAN AVIATOR -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 12:07:12 AM)

Nice pics! I've owned nothing but Polaris (since 1993) until I got this Brute and KQ. I've always been kinda partial to POPO's but man those '09s are FUGLY. It seems like ARCTIC CAT, and Can-Am are the companys that are listening to what customers want (like the mud pro and ever increasing power of the Can-AM). Wish other bike builders would follow. Nice photos though. Just not my style in the looks department



bigpopo2792 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 12:28:19 AM)

did 850 sound any better than the  previous 800 motor?



bama1437 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 12:29:47 AM)

I think it looks great.



cc1999 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 1:11:09 AM)

Thanks for the pics, that answered a lot of questions on the exhasut, it might not be as bad as I thought to do some sort of custom duals.

Maybe just straight pipe with a pair of these. LOL From the looks of pic # 1245, that would not be all that hard to do. Might sound pretty cool with the new firing sequence.

[image]http://www.jcwhitney.com/wcsstore/jcwhitney/images/imagecache/G_16273G_CL_1.jpg[/image]



cc1999 -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 1:20:34 AM)

Did anone at the ride and drive ask if 12" rims would still fit on the machine.

Also there is a pic of a different wheel laying in the grass. What was that pic of, is that on optional rim for the quads.



Guest -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 2:40:33 AM)

so wait.. weres the belt at?



PEAST -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:07:39 AM)

I UNDERSTAND THAT A PARRALEL FIRING ENGINE MEANS BOTH PISTONS TRAVEL UP AND DOWN TO TOP DEAD CENTER AND BOTTOM DEAD CENTER AT THE SAME TIME LIKE THE SPORTSMAN 700 AND 800 ENGINE. EACH CYLINDER FIRES ON ALTERNATING STROKES. THE NEW ENGINE IS DEFINATLY A 270 DEGREE INLINE ENGINE. THE ENGINE HAS TWO COUNTERBALANCE SHAFTS GEAR DRIVEN OFF THE CRANKSHAFT. POLARIS SAID THIS 270 DEGREE DESIGN WAS BUILT BECAUSE ITS SUCH A SMOOTH RUNNING ENGINE WITH VERY LITTLE VIBRATION. THE CYLINDERS ARE ONE PIECE WITH THE TOP HALF OF THE CRANKCASE. THE CYLINDER WALLS ARE PLATED. 4 VALVES PER CYLINDER SINGLE OVERHEAD CAM. HUGE STATOR AND FLYWHEEL PRODUCES ALOT OF POWER. SOME ONE ALSO ASKED ABOUT THE TRANSMISSION TOURQUE COMPENSATOR. THIS WAS ADDED TO KEEP TRANSMISSIONS GEARS, TRANSMISSION CHAINS, AND AXLES FROM BREAKING UNDER SUDDEN IMPACT. (ATV WHEELS COME OFF GROUND RUNNING AT LOW GROUND SPEED, ATV HITS GROUND WITH WHEEL SPEED OF 70 MPH). ANOTHER DEVICE WAS ADDED TO TRANSMISSION TO AID IN SMOOTH GEAR LEVER SHIFTING, LIKE WHEN ATV IS HARD TO SHIFT FROM PARK INTO GEAR WHILE PARKED ON A STEEP INCLINE. POLARIS DIDNT MISS ALOT OF ANYTHING WHEN DESIGNING THIS ATV.



Guest -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:10:52 AM)

no they didint.. but weres the belt at?!?!



dbmachine -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:29:48 AM)

the belt is located on the backside of the motor...since this motor is now sideways installed in the bike the cvt cover is now located where a normal engine's rear drive shaft would come out...looks like changing belts would be quite tedious



PEAST -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:31:39 AM)

OTHER FEATURES INCLUDE:
-NEW CRANKCASE VENTING DESIGN TO KEEP OIL OUT OF AIRBOX.
-NEW STYLE ELECTRONIC THROTTLE CONTROL SWITCH. (ETC).
-ECU NOW CONTROLS AWD, NOT THE SPEEDO HEAD.
-ECU FAN CONTROL OPERATION PROCEDURE HAS CHANGED.
-850 IDLE SPEED 1,200 RPM, 550 IDLE SPEED 1,650 RPM'S.
-ALL 3 HEADLIGHTS BURN WHEN SWITCHED TO HIGH.
-WET SUMP LUBRICATION. NO DRY SUMP SEPARATE OIL TANKS.
-600 WATT CHARGING SYSTEM.
-WATER PUMP DRIVEN OFF END OF CRANKSHAFT. (MAGNETO END).
-WATER PUMP ROUTING HELPS COOL STATOR.
-AUTOMOTIVE SEALED STYLE STARTER WITH INTERGRATED BENDIX AND SOLENOID.
-360 DEGREE WRAPPED STAINLESS STEEL HEADER PIPES.
-20% LARGER RADIATOR, MOUNTED 4.75" HIGHER.
-550 XP IS A FUJI ENGINE, SAME MANUFACTOR AS THE 400, 450, AND 500 ENGINES.
-550 XP HAS SPRAGUE CLUTCH STARTING SYSTEM. NO MORE STARTER DRIVES OR BENDIX'S!!
-550 XP HAS VISTEON EFI. SAME AS USED ON THE NEW VICTORY VISION MOTORCYCLE.
-850 XP HAS BOSCH MULTI-PORT SEQUENTIAL EFI. (NO WASTED IGNITION SPARK).
-DUAL 40MM MIKUNI THROTTLE BODIES.
-SPARK PLUGS CAN BE REPLACED IN 2 MINUTES.
-VERY EASY MAINTENANCE.
-REMOVABLE FRAME SECTIONS TO AID IN CLUTCH OR ENGINE REMOVAL.
-REVISED FRONT GEARCASE TO REDUCE PROP-SHAFT INPUT ANGLE.
-AWD WORKS IN REVERSE WITHOUT PRESSING OVERRIDE BUTTON!!!!!
-SPIKE LIMITER BUILT INTO TRANSMISSION.
-SAME AIR FILTER AS SPORTSMAN 800/700/500.
-I THINK THE EXHAUST DESIGN IS VERY SHORT AND SWEET. HIGHLIFTER HAD A LIFTED 550XP AT SHOW WITH HMF SLIP ON.

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PEAST -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:39:49 AM)

THE DRIVEN CLUTCH IS MOUNTED ABOVE THE DRIVE CLUTCH BEHIND THE TRANSMISSION. THE ENGINE IS MOUNTED IN THE FRAME, THEN THE TRANSMISSION HOUSING BOLTS DIRECTLY TO THE ENGINE. BOTH THE CLUTCHES ARE MOUNTED ON THE TRANSMISSION INPUT AND OUTPUT SHAFTS. THE CLUTCHES ARE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER. BELT IS VERY SHORT. I HAVE SOME CUT AWAY PICTURES OF THE SYSTEM FROM THE DEALER SHOW.



Guest -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:42:26 AM)

thats gonna make a pain in the **** to change belts



dbmachine -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:45:48 AM)

Peast you must work for polaris??? because you sure are knowledgable about these new products...wander when the rzr will get the 850xp??



PEAST -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 3:57:47 AM)

NO, BUT I OWN TWO DEALERSHIPS IN NC. I DO SOME TRAINING FOR THE MILITARY ON POLARIS 700MV'S. I WAS AT THE TECHNICAL UPDATE SEMINAR IN LAS VEGAS YESTERDAY. IM STILL IN VEGAS AND WILL GET TO RIDE THE MACHINES IN THE MOURNING. I WOULD GUESS MAYBE 2011 MODEL ON THE 850 RZR?? I HEARD WE MIGHT SE A 550 IN A RZR FIRST?? DID YOU SEE THE 170CC YOUTH RZR. FIRST YOUTH SIDE BY SIDE IN THE INDUSTRY. I DONT THINK IT IS ON POLARIS WEB SITE. JANUARY 2009 DELIVERY. THE 2009 RZR 800 S HAS A 800 HO ENGINE WITH A LITTLE MORE POWER. SAME ENGINE, JUST A LITTLE MORE PERFORMANCE.



PEAST -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 4:01:10 AM)

THEY SAID FLAT RATE ON CHANGING THE BELT ON THE 850XP IS ABOUT 12 MINUTES. REMOVE LH FLOORBOARD, UN-BOLT ONE 10" FRAME RAIL SECTION, REMOVE CLUTCH COVER BOLTS, AND REMOVE COVER.



Foulplay -> RE: pics from 2009 model year press intro (7/25/2008 6:42:15 AM)

I read somewhere that low gear wasn't as low providing more top speed in low range...how did it feel? Does the extra horsepower make up for the difference? Does it have the torque that we are all looking for?



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