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Big House -> What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 3:25:10 PM)

What would be harder to turn, a larger tire that weighs less or a smaller tire that weighs more. Just curious




James Chapman -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 3:27:35 PM)

The larger tire

Of course how agressive the tread is should also be taken into account




BUSHHOG -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 3:32:42 PM)

Beside weight, it also depends on the lug/thread design, how wide each tire measures, side wall strength, tire profile, radial or biased belted, speed and type of surface. More than likely I'm leaving something out.........lol.




Big House -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 3:38:18 PM)

Yes I am asking about a hard pack surface tire. I am currently running 26 inch bighorns and they are a heavy tire. They are great and I love them. I also love ground clearance. I was just wondering if I would gain any more power going to a larger, lighter tire. Thanks for all the help and keep the opinions coming.




James Chapman -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 4:05:16 PM)

Well what are the 2 tires and sizes...That would help us out lol




Black Redneck -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 7:45:11 PM)

it could be like comparing apples and oranges




Big House -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 10:44:36 PM)

I don't really know just wanted to know if someone knew. Like compare a 26 bighorn to the new 30 zilla (not mudzilla) or 28 or 30 mudlite. Something along those lines. Again I'm just curious and wondered if someone has done this comparison before.




James Chapman -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/24/2008 10:51:06 PM)

Its really gonna come down to the tires compared...There is no general rule i can say

a 28x12-12 law up front is gonna be worse in the steering department then a 29.5x10-12 law up front

Tired width and the agressiveness of the tread pattern affect steering..

Although...You could say a 26 thats  agressive compared to a less agressive 30 in tall tire...the 30 is going to most likely be the harder tire to steer and more stressful on the axles/tierods




LiveForMud -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/25/2008 9:45:01 AM)

on the trails there isn't much difference, taller tires just lower your acceleration but increase your top speed due to the taller overall gearing. if you're not stuck on using a  (heavy) radial tire, a 28" mudlite should do you good since they're light and have a rounded profile that doesn't put a whole lot of tread on the ground at once. radials have a more flat profile which increases traction on hard/flat surfaces, but makes steering harder and radials are just heavier than bias ply tires. i don't know tire weights right off hand, but i'm sure you can find a light tire that'll meet your height and traction requirements. rule of thumb in drag racing is, as far as acceleration is concerned, every 1 lb of rotating mass is the same as 4 lb of static mass... so installing tires that are the same height as stockers, but 3 lb lighter for each (or 12lb of rotating mass removed), will be the same as taking off 48 lb of weight off the bike and will make you faster through a run (if traction is the same, of course). but 48lb versus the ~800 lb quad loaded (with you on it) is only 6% of the whole picture... while going from 25" tires to 28" tires (both the same weight) is a 12% change in leverage your engine has on the ground to move you and the quad. gotta look at the whole picture.

in thick mud, a set of 27" laws (10s & 12s) would be about the same difficulty, if not harder, to turn than 30" mudlites due to just the shear amount of muck those huge lugs on the laws grab with every turn. while the 30" mudlites are 11% taller, which increases your gearing 11%, the lug face area on the 27" laws dwarfs that of the 'lites. in the mud, you're turning much more than just the tire... you gotta also turn all the mud the lugs grab also which is much harder to turn than the tire itself. it's like picking up a shovel and slinging it around with ease, then trying to do the same with a scoop of mud added on. it'll wear you out pretty fast. the engine has to fight the same forces.




sTa -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/25/2008 9:55:39 AM)

Good explaination i will say [;)]




blake777 -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/25/2008 10:10:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sTa

Good explaination i will say [;)]


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BRmudder -> RE: What is harder to turn? (7/25/2008 11:06:19 AM)

I'd say a larger lighter tire is harder than a smaller heavier, but not like a 26 & 27...then the 27 would be easier.  If the diff is like a 27 & a 30, then the 27 would be easier.

Just my thought...




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