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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/13/2008 9:23:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		answering for red420 cause his is parts are at my shop. 22 on the small and 40 on the big gear and that thing will spin 28 laws great.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/13/2008 9:59:07 PM   
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answering for red420 cause his is parts are at my shop. 22 on the small and 40 on the big gear and that thing will spin 28 laws great.


I dont have the turner one in front of me but I was wanting to figure the reduction percentage out.

Stock is 22 and 40.
Turner is ? and  ?

Reduction is  ?...

I have heard three different amounts. 15%, 16%, and 21%....

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/13/2008 10:02:38 PM   
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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/14/2008 4:46:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Did anyone figure out about the problem with putting the reduction in the 420???? Speed sensor?????

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/14/2008 6:26:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		****** The Turner Gear Reduction is only a 15.5% reduction ******

Had a few guys at work look at it and figure it up for me. I hear alot of people saying its 21%. I just wanted to throw this out there so nobody got mislead.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/14/2008 6:48:10 PM   
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Did anyone figure out about the problem with putting the reduction in the 420???? Speed sensor?????


I'm curious too cause I had my heart set on doing this too later on after enjoying the Bi/Tris for a while, and maybe getting another sport to ride at the sand pits. I'm also a little puzzled about what was said earlier in the thread about grinding a little off the bottom of the speed sensor to make it closer to the gear. If you ground off the bottom of the sensor and didn't damage the magnet in it, it would be farther away from the gear not closer. Did you mean grind away some of the mounting surface? thats the only way I can think of to make the sensor closer to the gear.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/14/2008 7:41:19 PM   
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I'm curious too cause I had my heart set on doing this too later on after enjoying the Bi/Tris for a while, and maybe getting another sport to ride at the sand pits. I'm also a little puzzled about what was said earlier in the thread about grinding a little off the bottom of the speed sensor to make it closer to the gear. If you ground off the bottom of the sensor and didn't damage the magnet in it, it would be farther away from the gear not closer. Did you mean grind away some of the mounting surface? thats the only way I can think of to make the sensor closer to the gear.


That would be the only way I would think

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 8:52:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is it plastic to trim off or is it metal that you have to grind off of it????

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 8:59:45 PM   
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Is it plastic to trim off or is it metal that you have to grind off of it????



That question is to you ES guys...

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 9:11:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cool. as soon as I find out anything I wil let you know.  I forget that you have the manual shift.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 9:13:26 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just want it to be clear to all of you that it is a 15.5 % reduction. Dont let anybody lie to you or mislead you when buying it. It is only a 1% difference is that one and the one I have. I hear alot of rumers of it being 21%, which is not true.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 9:41:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		im a little slow at answering you guys i dont get up here everyday but of course you grind the mounting part of the speed sensor why would you grind on the end dont make sence to ask and it is plastic with a brass sleve for the bolt that hold it on. we are not saying do it try te reduction out with stock speed sen. and if it dont work for you like we exp. then try shaving the "mounting part of the sensor"

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/16/2008 10:22:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		So what about the double reduction...
Whos gonna be first to have it done?.........Wayne
Im thinkin about adding the second one soon, I think i can fix the es problem pretty easy

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/17/2008 6:38:31 PM   
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So what about the double reduction...
Whos gonna be first to have it done?.........Wayne
Im thinkin about adding the second one soon, I think i can fix the es problem pretty easy


If you can fix it easy don't keep it a secret lol.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/17/2008 6:49:33 PM   
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So what about the double reduction...
Whos gonna be Second to have it done?.........Trey


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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/17/2008 8:40:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		haha. Well im gonna see if i can get this speed sensor deal worked out, before i order the Turner.
Can i hear 30% reduction on a 420 slingin 32s
  

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/17/2008 9:37:16 PM   
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haha. Well im gonna see if i can get this speed sensor deal worked out, before i order the Turner.
Can i hear 30% reduction on a 420 slingin 32s
  


I really think the 32 would hit the framing under the floorboard. Might work if you took that off. I get my motor back tomorrow. 425 cc. should pull like a tank !

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/17/2008 10:09:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		hey trey b4 you go messing with your speed sensor i might have around a 30% reduction up my sleeves to where you won't have to do anything but slide it in 

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/18/2008 10:52:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeah the 32s would prob. be a little big without a custom lift. I wonder what it would be like with a 29.5 and around a 30% reduction??

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/18/2008 10:53:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		James, would this new one add to the one i already have or would i have to take my current one out and replace it??

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/19/2008 1:20:46 AM   
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James, would this new one add to the one i already have or would i have to take my current one out and replace it??



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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/24/2008 10:50:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well guys the turner one didnt fit in my bike. I used a dremel and everything. Still hits. How did you get yours on red420 ? I have my motor on a table thats how i know its hitting. Yours might have been hitting and you just couldnt hear it for your bike running. It might wear itself down but then your motor will be full of shavings.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/24/2008 11:20:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		we had it out on th table to and for the sensor on yours must be a little diff then the es cause eveything fell in to place and the sensor was a little far from the gear but we didnt thnik was far enough but with everything back together the speedo wasnt working and then it wouldnt shift. cut the bike off and it would reset for a short time and then do it again and again. so we knew it had to be that the sensor was to far away and we grinded and put back and has been working for about 3 weeks now.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 12:06:04 AM   
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we had it out on th table to and for the sensor on yours must be a little diff then the es cause eveything fell in to place and the sensor was a little far from the gear but we didnt thnik was far enough but with everything back together the speedo wasnt working and then it wouldnt shift. cut the bike off and it would reset for a short time and then do it again and again. so we knew it had to be that the sensor was to far away and we grinded and put back and has been working for about 3 weeks now.


I dont even have a sensor. Mine just keeps hitting the cases slightly. Did you have to grind the cases?

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 12:17:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wayne, don't worry about it man.  I will take care of it because that is some B/S that it won't fit.  I am just glad that we didn't spend two hours breaking down my bike when the crap doesn't even fit.  I will deff get my money back and me and you will come up with another plan.  I kinda knew something was fishey!?!  Atleast we found out the easiest way.  Let me know what you come up with..  will call you in the morning.




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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 12:44:18 AM   
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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 7:11:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey man it got late and i went to bed but the paper that came with ours said for the 500 you have to shave the casing to make it fit and for some ranchers you might have to do the same. we also called turner on that cause we didnt want to go to far and he said to grind until it fit but the ours fit great had plenty room.

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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 7:55:20 AM   
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RE: Turner Reduction for 420 - 7/25/2008 6:12:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Finally got it to go in and spin freely today. Just took a good bit of the good ole dremel. I called Daniel last week about it and he told me that it just slips on, no grinding ?

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