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Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 10:29:50 AM   
Big Dog 500

 

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Status: offline 		There have been a lot of entirely false rumors about 31" Outlaws that probably had to do with the fact that since introduction at Mud Nationals, we haven't said much about them. The reason for that is we recived the front prototypes and did not like the design/shape of the side lugs of the tread. It did not have as much of the "ears" at the top corner of the side lug so despite having to pay to have the mold reworked, we knew to be a real Outlaw, particularly the biggest and baddest Outlaw yet, this had to be done. We just in the last 10 days or so received the first revised fronts since the molds were changed.  They are awesome and everything we hoped they would be. Due to that expected delay (3 months) we felt it best not to do a lot of talking and create a lot of demand we can't fill for a while. I would guess we are looking at 90 days or so before they get here.

I will give you the facts to clear up those false rumors.  First the 31s weigh one pound more than the 29.5s. 38 for 10x29.5--- 39 for 9.5x31,  43 for 12x29.5----44 for 11x31. (by our scales 9x30 Zillas weigh 42--11x30  44lbs) We worked hard to save weight as we knew it would be important.

Next no axles has been broken while turning a 31. In truth since we haven't had that many, they have not been on that many bikes so that is not to say they won't. Since they  only weigh 1 more pound or 4 more per set  there should not be much difference. If you aren't breaking axles with 29.5s it should not be much different with 31s. 
Now that we have approved the fronts we have ordered 5 containers. 2 have been spoken for by dealers placing advance orders. We are waiting on the delivery dates from the manufacturer, Cheng Shen Rubber Co., parent company and maker of Maxxis tires like Mudzillas and others. They are the makers of the highest quality ATV tires in the industry (IMO).
The tires will retail for 163 for fronts and 184 for rears. No they are not cheap and we negotiated for a better price but with componet costs up... yata,yata,yata.  Thats the best we could do. If we could bo better we would. I will post some pics of 31s compared to 29.5s shortly. The tires have a very flat profile and ride very well.

If you want to place a set on order we will put you in line and not hit credit cards til they ship.  Thanks for your support.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 10:56:33 AM   
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 thanks man good to hear.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 10:58:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good lord I will have to sell my zillas and my 29.5's in order to afford them.  That is EXPENSIVE!

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 11:02:08 AM   
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 Yea there expensive but it'll be worth it.




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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 2:18:52 PM   
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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 2:45:40 PM   
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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 4:25:12 PM   
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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 4:30:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Look for a test on the out laws in the next issue of Mudders Magazine. Good job on the tires.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 4:30:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Awsome Big Dog 500!!  Thanks for the clearing up on the 31" outlaws!! I guess I got to get a bigger atv now and robb a bank for the tires!! lol

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 4:33:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		Big Dog 500, I'm glad you finally got around to writing this posted note.  It's been difficult correction those who have been fed false information as there are MANY of them!  Thanks for the updates.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 5:06:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahh see now i gotta go and get a 6 inch lift to fit the 31s, look what yall are doin to a man. And of course i gotta also have SHINY rims to go with the 31s. You know its not easy to keep up with yall


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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 6:29:50 PM   
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_07 650 h-1_
- 32 " Sbacks waiting to be mounted
- Tall snorkels
- Rad up top
- Wide open on 26s for now
- 2 " lift kit
- Highlifter springs
- axle spacers
- Dalton clutch kit
- Hmf muffler
- K&N an jetted
- Front brush guard
- Rear brush guard
- 3000 lb monkey winch
- Handle guards

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 6:39:34 PM   
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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 8:24:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		alrite i get that they might only weigh 1lb more but not many people think about is the fact that that 14" rim you have to use makes the entire combo weigh more. i picked up a set of teh very first 14" itp xtrs mounted on 14" type 7s and they weighed a ton, i picked up a 29.5x10 mounted at HLs shop for the open house and they didnt seem to weigh that much more than those 14" xtrs so now a huge tire along with a 14" rim just seems like youre really not trying to cut overall weight. i picked up a set of the 30x9x14 zillas today at my local dealer and jesus!!!. plus its crazy when the cost of atv tires is more than truck tires. not bashing just saying my own opinion and cant wait to see them on some of the big bikes out there just wont see me with a pair unless theyre given to me, i can barely justify buying some 27 laws. anyway good luck and good work on the new big laws!

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/2/2007 8:47:21 PM   
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Thanks for the post Big Dog!! And the Info.

The HL 14" wheel doesnt weigh alot more than the 12", Its REALLY light.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 6:37:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok so what would be better?.. 29.5x12 or the 31x11? i find with my zilla's i dont like the 10's up front i should have gone with the 12's..

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 7:00:57 AM   
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Status: online 		so you can only get them on 14's? i thought they were some talk of making them to fit the 12's too.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 7:13:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'll get some more pics today...but here is a pic to give you a size comparison.  On the left is a 29.5 and on the right is a 31.  Both are mounted on wheels, the 31 is on a bike in our showroom and both are rear tires.

The only other pair in existence is loaned out for a magazine test (see next issue of Mudders Mag).

When the test tires come back from Kevin, we'll get pics of the entire set.

Enjoy!



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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 9:28:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		wow...thats great stuff right there ****! thanks for the compare pic...those things are nasty!

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 9:44:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		Man for sure now im getting 31 " laws for my next mud tire !!! My birthday is coming and i get like 400 or so bucks ill be like have way there lol

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- 32 " Sbacks waiting to be mounted
- Tall snorkels
- Rad up top
- Wide open on 26s for now
- 2 " lift kit
- Highlifter springs
- axle spacers
- Dalton clutch kit
- Hmf muffler
- K&N an jetted
- Front brush guard
- Rear brush guard
- 3000 lb monkey winch
- Handle guards

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 10:03:44 AM   
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 those tires look BAD!!! i cant wait to get a set.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 2:38:49 PM   
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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 3:09:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Big Dog 500
I will give you the facts to clear up those false rumors.  First the 31s weigh one pound more than the 29.5s. 38 for 10x29.5--- 39 for 9.5x31,  43 for 12x29.5----44 for 11x31. (by our scales 9x30 Zillas weigh 42--11x30  44lbs) We worked hard to save weight as we knew it would be important.



I know this is going to be considered a "negative" post, but tire weight has little to do with breakage.  Traction and diameter do.

For the record, I am not saying the 31's wont be the best tire on the market.  The 29.5s are so I see no reason that these wont be too.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 3:19:44 PM   
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 I don't consider it a negative post, just your honest opinion. And i have to agree with you, but the 31's are only 1.5" taller than the 29's, so there shouldn't be to much more wear and tear than the 29's cause.



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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 4:46:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		so the 29.5's in the pic are they 12's or 10's?.. Im just wondering about floatation.. like i said the 10's fr me are not enough... 

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 6:19:41 PM   
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I don't consider it a negative post, just your honest opinion. And i have to agree with you, but the 31's are only 1.5" taller than the 29's, so there shouldn't be to much more wear and tear than the 29's cause.



kyle


Then by your reckoning 29.5s should cause less carnage than 28s because they are just 1.5" taller.  I honestly have broken the same amount of stuff with 28s as 29.5s.  It is all in your driving style.

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 6:20:16 PM   
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< Message edited by Maritime_Brute -- 8/3/2007 6:27:50 PM >

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 6:21:35 PM   
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so the 29.5's in the pic are they 12's or 10's?.. Im just wondering about floatation.. like i said the 10's fr me are not enough... 
on the left 29.5x12x12 on the right 31x11x14...actually i am suprised how wide the 31's look for an 11" wide

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 7:36:58 PM   
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I'll get some more pics today...but here is a pic to give you a size comparison.  On the left is a 29.5 and on the right is a 31.  Both are mounted on wheels, the 31 is on a bike in our showroom and both are rear tires.

The only other pair in existence is loaned out for a magazine test (see next issue of Mudders Mag).

When the test tires come back from Kevin, we'll get pics of the entire set.

Enjoy!



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lets just say business will be GOOD at groilla  i can see it now 12 beers and a set of 31's can we say carnage

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RE: Facts about 31" Outlaws - 8/3/2007 8:01:57 PM   
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yea i added it up its 688 dollars and with tax mayb 700 ish dollars just i need to find cheap ghetto rims lol


Now just imagine how much us Canadians will have to pay for a set. The local shop sells 27" MSTs  for $700+ before 14% tax

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