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homemade brake pads??? - 1/31/2005 8:57:17 PM

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Hey does anyone know how to make some homemade brake pads?? What i mean is to use the old brake pads backing plate as the new backing plate for the new brake pad material.What i need to know is where to get brake pad material at. Do you use expoxy to bond pad material to backing plate or what???

Thanks for the info. I am looking for a cheap way to keep my brakes from being so costly because of the mudridding I can not do without.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 1/31/2005 9:13:20 PM

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I ordered my brake lining from McMaster carr and then used JB weld and a c clamp overnight

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 1/31/2005 10:08:20 PM

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herbie has it goin on

what i used was clutch and brake lining, I think that would be the best stuff to use. go ahead and order like 3 feet of it. so you don't have to pay shipping more than you need to.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 1/31/2005 10:20:40 PM

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makin ur own brake pads!!! that is just to redneck .lol good job bud. seriously. ever buck you save is just more gas money in ur pocket.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/1/2005 7:13:09 AM

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Where else can you get brake pads for 75 cents per side.Heres the kicker-I ran stock set 600 miles and replaced with EBC heavy duty.they lasted less than 200 miles.Homemade have almost 400 miles on them and still going strong.I bought 5 feet so I have extra sets made up when i need them.Dollar saved can go towards another purchase

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/1/2005 10:35:03 AM

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How does the brake pad material cut? Do you use a cut-off wheel. Do you just trace the old pad area and cut it out?
This is pure genious.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/1/2005 10:46:45 AM

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I have drum brakes so my shoes last a LONG time. But if i had disks i would make my own as well. My only concern would be cutting them and dust. If they have asbestos in them which i bet they do, you will need the proper mask and ventilation . Asbestos dust will guaranteed kill you in the long run.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/1/2005 12:02:39 PM

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Are you guys making the pads for the HL Disc Brakes? If so, what exact material are you using from McMaster, thickness etc? This is a great idea!! Also, how are you cutting this stuff?

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/1/2005 7:04:59 PM

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Please include more info on the homemade McMaster replacement pads, ordering info - phone number, material & thickness, I am willing to try it.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/3/2005 2:13:27 PM

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anymore info here??

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/3/2005 3:47:50 PM

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i used 1 1/4" wide, and 3/16 inch thick semi metallic brake lining.

it is easy to cut, the stuff you get is like a woven material type of stuff. you can cut it with some wire cutters in like 2 snips.

all you do is make sure there is no pad left remaining on the original plate. clean the surface really well. then cut and trim the lining to fit just perfectly. when you get it right, make up some JB weld, and slap that sucker on there. use a C-clamp to hold it in place. probably best to hold over night. when dry install brake pads on ATV

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/3/2005 4:24:30 PM

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Would this work for the brake shoes in drum brakes, or only for discs? If it works for drums, I could afford to have rear brakes most of the time.

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/3/2005 9:45:53 PM

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i dont understand why HL disc brake pads are so high!?

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/18/2005 11:08:36 PM

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thanks
for the info.
This place is great and with McMaster I get my stuff next day ground!!

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Re: homemade brake pads??? - 2/19/2005 2:08:18 AM

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I bought 3feet of brake material for $16 and I have enough for at least 3 complete sets of pads for my Grizzly. jb weld and let them sit overnight. they work as good as regular brake pads. they last longer than my factory ones did.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 11:41:01 AM

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I know this is an old thread, but

I was looking at the different types of linings and is the semimetallic stuff good for high speed stops?

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 1:04:33 PM

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I did a little run thru on making pads a while back,,,,

http://www.highlifter.com/forum/m_2628445/mpage_1/key_/tm.htm#2628445

And I use the woven brass,,,, works great,,, high speed or low speed stops. I use the 1" x 3/16" and cut it with snips.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 1:51:33 PM

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I made 3 or 4 sets for my cat back a couple of years ago and used the 3/16's brass. Its not worth the time and hastle!! They dont stop you as good as the factory pads (They do stop you just not as abrupt as the factory made ones) and they dont last longer than factory made ones. Not worth it.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 1:57:52 PM

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ORIGINAL: kscowboy

I made 3 or 4 sets for my cat back a couple of years ago and used the 3/16's brass. Its not worth the time and hastle!! They dont stop you as good as the factory pads (They do stop you just not as abrupt as the factory made ones) and they dont last longer than factory made ones. Not worth it.

Hmmmmmm,,,,,????? Not worth it? May be a hassle using solid brass,,, never tried that. Using the woven brass is a snap. Takes about 20 minutes to get everything together and into the vise to sit over night. And the cost factor actually makes it more than worth the effort,,,, compare about $50-$60 for a set of factory front pads to about $25 for after market front set to less than $3 for a homemade set of pads. The math speaks for itself,,,

And the ones I've been making seem to stop my bikes great,,,, don't understand the problem you had except maybe the solid brass,,, and like I said, I never tried the solid.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 2:10:17 PM

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I made the same solid brass pads and they dont last as long as EBC pads and dont stop you near as well.

what is this "woven brass" you talk of..??

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 2:13:41 PM

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McMaster Carr has it on their site,,,,, under brake and clutch linings,,,, called semi-metallic woven strips,,,, works great.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 2:17:45 PM

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So is this really brake lining material.? what i was useing was just brass stock and it just dont work real well.
I read your post and it sonds like this stuff must be alot better then just brass.
guess i wil have to get some and try it out iam getting close to needing pads again.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 2:23:22 PM

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YEP,,,, actual brake and clutch material,,,, the clutch stuff is softer than the brake material,,, got some of it by accident and it don't work at all. But the 'green' woven brass is perfect,,,, get the 3/16 x 1" and get several feet of it. Bout $3.80/lf,,,, I got 6' and made a pile of them,,,,, the 1" wide is perfect to fit on the HL pad blanks,,,, see my other thread for specifics on assembly,,,, and just give a holler if you have any questions at all.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 2:32:49 PM

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Thanks, it sounded like you built them just like i did the brass ones i made. there plenty easy to do for sure

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 3:09:41 PM

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can i get a part number on which one to use?

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 3:16:27 PM

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6224K115 AND NO, IT DOES NOT CLICK BACK TO THE WEBPAGE,,, BUT THIS IS THE PART NUMBER,,,

$3.15/LF

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 4:03:06 PM

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I don't believe any pads today are made with asbestos anymore.

There are three basic types of pad material:
organic. This is made from an assortment of things like nut shells, cork, and other non-metallic materials. They are very cheap and very quiet, but wear out quickly, especially in mud. They are ok but will stop working if the brake gets too hot, for instance going down a big hill.

Sintered metallic: This is pretty much entirely made from metallic materials, largely copper, brass, zinc, graphite, nickel, and whatever else they decide to put in. These are a much better wearing brake pad, last longer, stop better, but are more expensive and noisier. There are hundreds of different "types" of brake lining material which are different mixtures, all of which are proprietary.

Semi-metallic. This type is made from a mix of both, and it gives you a mix of performance. mediocre longevity, mediocre sound, mediocre brake stops, mediocre pricing. This is what nearly all cars have, because of price.

For high speed stops, the best material is sintered metallic. In fact, sintered metallic is the best pad material for nearly every aspect except for noise and price. semi-metallic will give acceptable performance though.

Pure brass pads will usually wear longer, but are bad for the rotor and usually noisy.

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 9:39:51 PM

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make me a set lol i need them bad to dang cheap to buy em ha they make a skin crawlin sound

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 10:06:45 PM

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looks like i have me some home made brake pads to make, will let you know how it turns out.....

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RE: Re: homemade brake pads??? - 7/23/2008 10:16:34 PM

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at my former employer we used to reline brake pads, brake shoes,brake bands, clutches,elevator brake shoes,you name it.we stocked woven lining and shoe and pad stock from organic on up to full metallic lining.
i just go back there and get my lining material and the bonding agent. get it all stuck together and clamp it with a c clamp and then bake it in an old oven. the bonding agent needs heat to be activated and fully cure.

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