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Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/4/2007 8:26:49 PM

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Anybody out their had any problems with the fuel filters clogging up? My fuel pump over the last 3 months or so seems to have gotten noisier than normal, but I had no problems with the starting or running of my atv. My pump still cycles on and off like before but I have no fuel at the fuel rail. Has anyone had a fuel pump go bad that still sounds like it functions properly or was it the fuel filter or something else? Help !!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/4/2007 10:34:41 PM

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Its easy to take the tank out and remove the pump/pickup assembly, change the filter first and if that doesn't help, pull it out and check all the connections. If the pump is toast you can replace it with a fuel pump from a hyundai sonata.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/4/2007 11:31:53 PM

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yeah just like said change filter first its only a 20 dollar part and a 5 min job and the go from there.......

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 7:32:50 AM

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Haven't had time to search atv,so can you tell me where the filter is on the 05 Sportsman 800? What year Hyundai ?

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 3:38:03 PM

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I found the fuel filter and you have to **** near take the front end apart to get to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just my luck.....so much for a 5 minute job , plus it has (supposed) quick connects to take loose from the fuel lines but you got to have a special tool for that. This is gonna be fun and not sure thats going to fix the starting problem!!

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 4:58:13 PM

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huh????? im not sure where you are getting that you have to take the front end apart and no you dont have to have a special tool for the quick connects the filter just pops in and out of the little "holder" mounted on the frame..........unless i am missing something that is totally different than on my 06

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 5:35:22 PM

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ya. you can get your bands in there and pop the filter out of the holder then just use a flat screwdriver and pop the tabs off the quick connect and the fuel line will slide right off the filter.

kind of a side note. does anybody know of an automotive filter you can get from the parts store that will work in the efi's. i have searched postes and can not find anything.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 6:05:19 PM

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Well, my filter is mounted in the center of the atv under the front box down below the ECU on the frame, or atleast thats what I thought I saw. The quick connects, are they like a EFI car that you have to slide a tool in the end to get the lines to release from the filter? My 800 is a 2005. This is the 1st trouble I have had with my atv and it really has me bugged.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 6:18:37 PM

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yes its almost directly under your fuse "panel" just pop it out of its holder and push the white "tabs" sorta that are on one side in and there yah go

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 7:21:31 PM

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So , has your filter clogged and left you stranded or did the pump still make noise and just not pump?

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 7:43:29 PM

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quote:

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kind of a side note. does anybody know of an automotive filter you can get from the parts store that will work in the efi's. i have searched postes and can not find anything.

I do belive the polaris fuel filter has a bosch part number on it. Most automotive part stores shoud be able to cross it....

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 7:57:42 PM

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i tried canadian tire and they had nothing so i think i got to try napa or bumper to bumper.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/5/2007 11:06:07 PM

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i tried canadian tire and they had nothing so i think i got to try napa or bumper to bumper.

Canadian tire....there's your problem......

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/6/2007 8:43:14 AM

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quote:

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i tried canadian tire and they had nothing so i think i got to try napa or bumper to bumper.

Canadian tire....there's your problem......

ya probably. bunch of retarded there.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/6/2007 9:52:57 AM

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So , has your filter clogged and left you stranded or did the pump still make noise and just not pump?

let me ask you this........how do you know there is no fuel at the rail????? did you purge the valve at the end of the rail and there was no pressure??????

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/6/2007 10:15:44 AM

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Yes, I removed the cap and put a tire gauge on it and got no reading, then I depressed the shrader valve and still nothing, then I depressed the shrader valve and turned the key on and let the pump cycle and still got no spray ,no drip or anything. I popped the filter out of the holder, but haven't figured out how to actually make the clips release without possibly tearing them up. Do you compress and push the two ends in and up or do you push the wide part in and pull filter?

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/6/2007 10:22:07 AM

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you push the two ends in then up.

1. l_l

2. /_\

then push it out.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 5:17:46 AM

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well, I finally got a chance to go out and remove the fuel filter and it was full of fuel, but when I turn the key on to cycle the fuel pump,....... I still got the noise as if it was pumping but no fuel being pump out of the fuel lines ! What do you think people? Is it the fuel pump or does the ECU signal the pump to pump, or does the ECU just control the amount of fuel the injectors spray? Hmmmmm, what do I do ...what do I do ?

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 6:50:09 AM

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can you her the fuel pump pumping????? and/or comming on and priming when you turn the key on???

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 10:09:28 AM

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Yes, it comes on to prime and then goes off, I can turn key off and turn key back on and it will come on and then goe off again !!!!!!!!!

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 4:46:21 PM

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I KNOW THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION BUT DOES IT HAVE GAS IN IT

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 8:15:47 PM

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Again, the fuel filter was full of fuel and so is the tank.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 8:25:46 PM

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your problems is most likely your fuel pump is bad...

also, one of the relays in front controls the power to the injectors and I believe the fuel pump, swap the two relays and see if it works, if not I would say you have a bad fuel pump in your tank....

it would take alot of gunk to plug up your fuel filter, so most likely not the problem...

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/10/2007 10:32:19 PM

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what about the regulator?????? is it possible that could have gone bad and just be dumping fuel back into the tank????

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 12/14/2007 6:45:59 AM

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Can anyone tell me whether or not the fuel pump can still be cycling on and off but not pump fuel? Can u disconnect from regulator to see if it is pumping? If it is still priming/pumping before the regulator then it must be regulator rather than pump!

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 10/7/2008 3:53:16 PM

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my pump wasn,t makin any unusual nioses just cycle as usual but i took off for a ride and it started to die and yes youre filter is in the spot u said ,pulled the front rack off only gave me full access just a little tite quarters the clips i pushed on each side with a screww driver and a little prying and u don,t have to take the clip right off end slides off easy my machine only has 90 hrs and filter was plugged solid ,sputterd a bit but once the gas was pressured up ,just took a minute ,ran great as for youre pump maybe that will cure it ,don,t know maybe it,s workin hard ....good luck.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 10/7/2008 6:44:02 PM

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some of the early efi polaris models had a problem with the regulator going bad. and yes the pump can cycle on and off without pumping fuel. the only way polaris sells it is with the tank as an assembly. i don't know if it will work but the pump itself looks just like a fuel pump for a 95 chevy pick up. never took the pump assembly apart to see if you can replace just the pump or the regulator though.

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RE: Sportsman 800 No Start, No fuel at fuel rail - 10/7/2008 8:13:37 PM

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I am having the same problem right now. your pump is BAD. i posted my problem last week. thanks to the guys on here i got a used one. I dont know of a part numnber for the pump but you could probably match it at a auto parts house. you will just need a new hose and clamps. mine was actually crumbling to pieces with rust.
The tank comes off pretty easy. just pull the front box, front plastic and the snorkle for the belt housing.

If anyone knows the year or part number of the sonnata pump please post it. we should also put it in the sticky parts thread.

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