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Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 8:19:05 PM

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What have yall done on yall's bike when you bust the bevel gear. Mine let go this weekend on a dry, dirt road in 2wd. I got it back before it bound up, but Im pretty sure its gone. Right now, Im wondering if I should rebuild the motor with a updated bevel gear, or just cut my losses and find a new motor. Ive got a lead on a 06 650 V-twin, but Im going to wait until I find some more prices on other stuff. Im open for any motor 500cc's+. Im thinking about racing, so the V-twin isn't looking too bad if I can set the belt up right.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 8:29:12 PM

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i was just reading in the other post where u said it broke. thats sux a big one. luckily i the only thing that messed u with me is my fan housing was warped and almost let my fan burn up b/c it couldn't turn. luckily me and TCAT caught it just in time to save it.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 8:42:47 PM

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Yea, its sucks. Im not too mad though. Im glad it broke in a good, dry, not far from camp, spot. I figure I cracked it a while back, and it finally let go. I sat out under the sun for an hour disconnecting the front driveshaft to find out that I had to undo the rear shaft which takes 5 minutes.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 8:47:51 PM

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:15:05 PM

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while its alot cheaper to just put in the updated parts unless your case got broke as well.
finding a 500m motor that is good is pretty hard to do. sticky a 650 V twin in it would be even harder. going to a 650H1 would not be bad but the price of a good 650H1 and all the other pars it takes to get it running is alot as well..

Mine let go for no reason when it broke my cases, i was in 2wd and had been all day just trail riding. I think the bearings get weak over time from abuse then fail and let the gears walk on top of one another and pop there done.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:25:56 PM

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That sux...I've been waiting on mine to let go for awhile now. It's just a matter of time..

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:40:16 PM

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about how many miles have yall put on your bikes before the bevel gears let go?

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:41:34 PM

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i had less then 150 miles on my 500m when it went.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:44:24 PM

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Mine has about 675 miles. Id say for at least 600 miles it had 29.5s or 31s

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 9:45:50 PM

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i had 1100 when mine did

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 10:05:39 PM

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Mine blew out at around 40 mile. I was in four low in a dry pond bottom with 29.5s. Four bikes with winches hooked up didn't budge it before the bevel blew. Once she broke it took a z71 jerking several times to just start moving it. I wasn't suprised about the bevel, I was amazed that the belt never slipped and the motor just barely bogged. I didn't really feel bad because a grizzly 660 was stuck in another spot and couldn't even turn the tires over. This picture is the first 5 seconds in the whole.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/5/2008 10:11:31 PM

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luv that user name, mmk, i saw some epps. i'v never seen during cartmaina , great idea!

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 6:10:56 PM

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cat bargains on ebay has a 700h1 motor for a decent price.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 6:34:24 PM

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That one is a bit high for me. Ill pull it out of the frame soon, but hopefully my cases are ok. How much are just the parts and does anyone have the part numbers of a microfiche? I tried to find it, but I didnt have much luck.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 7:43:10 PM

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It was good meeting you chris and my bevel gear went out around 600 miles it took one for the team I pushed out a brute and a 500 cat at the same time and when i came out the bevel gear broke.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 7:53:21 PM

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You too. Did you say you lost a rear axle on yours this weekend?

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 8:07:33 PM

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yea it is the only stock axle left, its also all one color now lol i finaly got the orenge on the back

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 8:13:57 PM

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I really like the way the Orange looks, but I have other things to replace on mine. If you want to go back with a stock axle on there, I think I have one in my truck toolbox.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/6/2008 8:31:22 PM

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mine let loose at about 775 mi and my case busted so it came out just about the same for me to swap to the 650

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/7/2008 4:52:51 PM

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I dont want to put a stock axle back in there but im broke wright now, I dont think your axle will work in mine unless you have 06 axles

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/7/2008 4:59:41 PM

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All rears 05+ will interchange. 05 fronts will only fit 05s. 06+ will interchange.

So does anyone have an estimated cost on parts? Im thinking about getting twin for around 1000 and then rebuilding the 500 and selling it. I still have to check an see if my case cracked, or that my rear seal started leaking a few days before it locked up.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/7/2008 5:12:54 PM

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the gears are like $120 bucks each, and i dont remeber what the bearings cost and then you have the other gaskets as well.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 5:11:29 PM

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do you have to split the motor to replace the bevel gear

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 5:12:57 PM

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YEAP sure do..

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 6:04:19 PM

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wuz up squeak this is tag, i met ya in doles & talked to ya bout my v-twin. why don't u send me ur motor & let me fix it for u.i ha thought about maybe workin out a trade with urs for mine but im not sure if im gonna race it yet.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 6:10:55 PM

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hey sailfish did i meet u sat night i was on my tcat and a guy on a smokin vtwin was askin me how i like it and some other questions but my crew was leavin an i had no head lights so i had to go

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 6:16:00 PM

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Just let me know something Jason. Id rather deal with you if you want to get rid of your twin since we are fairly local. I got a lead on one out of LA, but then Id have to get someone to pick it up at a race and bring it back for me. Whenever you decide how much you want to let it go for or want to work out some kind of deal, let me know. Im hoping to get it back 100% around Thanksgiving.

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 6:42:13 PM

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ill be honest with u itll take more money to convert to a twin cause u have to get a harness,cdi carbs and so forth.id rather sell my whole bike since i still owe money on it.but i dont mind helpin u fix yours maybe we could trae on some tires or somethin

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 6:49:16 PM

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While were on the topic of swaps, has anyone swapped a manual over to an auto? If so, how much did it cost in parts?

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RE: Rebuild Bevel or Swap Motor? - 10/8/2008 7:00:44 PM

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CHRIS JUST CUT UR LOSES AND GET A YAMI!

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