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Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:37:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		When i get in water just over the floorboards it spits and sputters and then turns off,the minute I get out the water it is running perfect,like nothing happened,can yall tell me what is going on here,and how to fix it??

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:39:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Steam is getting sucked into the intake.
Only solutions are to either snorkel it or stay out of the water.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:40:55 PM   
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Steam is getting sucked into the intake.
Only solutions are to either snorkel it or stay out of the water.


No way,its never done that before!!!Alright,if this is the problem,how can I solve it WITHOUT snorkeling it?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:42:38 PM   
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My buddies Foreman was doing the same thing...and the snorkel fixed it.
How about a stealth snorkel up under the pod?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:43:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Alright,how do I do that?Does someone have pics of how they did a hidden snorkel,and what they used?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:47:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		A hidden snorkel should be easier than an exposed one...because you don't have to cut the fender,and you don't have to switch the pipe from flex to rigid.
Worst thing you would probably have to do is trim a little off of the bottom side of the pod to make room for the flex to be shoved up in there.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:51:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		so,do I run it under the gas tank or what,which route do I need to take?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 8:54:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		under the plastic...around the lower right side of the gas tank...then flex it up under the pod.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:02:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		cool,what type of hose do I use?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:12:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yep!!! Mine was doing the same thing. I did not want to snorkle it either but sure enough that fixed it.  Man you have no Idea how long I looked at other thing before giving in to the snorkle. No looking back now.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:14:42 PM   
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:14:57 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		cool,im gonna run it out by my gas tank on that black plastic peice.....

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-HMF swamp Series
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-Back rack box
-Custom back rack icechest
-Duplicolor lined racks
-Custom tow hook
-Removed hitch
-Custom trimmed plastics
-26" ITP 589s
-12" ITP type 5 rims
-All vent lines to pod
Future mods
-27" Laws
-Audiopipe
-Highlifter springs
-Slick snorkel
PM me if yall are goin on a ride by Breaux Bridge
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:16:16 PM   
B.W.L 500


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Status: offline 		thanks for the help yall,really appreciate it....

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-HMF swamp Series
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-Stick stoppers
-Back rack box
-Custom back rack icechest
-Duplicolor lined racks
-Custom tow hook
-Removed hitch
-Custom trimmed plastics
-26" ITP 589s
-12" ITP type 5 rims
-All vent lines to pod
Future mods
-27" Laws
-Audiopipe
-Highlifter springs
-Slick snorkel
PM me if yall are goin on a ride by Breaux Bridge
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:19:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		Or...if you decide to run a regular snorkel...and want to go the easy way out...Triangle ATV sells a really nice kit specific to your bike.



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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:23:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		yea,but not lookin to spend 100+ for something I can do for less than 20.00,thanks though,your a good help....

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-Custom trimmed plastics
-26" ITP 589s
-12" ITP type 5 rims
-All vent lines to pod
Future mods
-27" Laws
-Audiopipe
-Highlifter springs
-Slick snorkel
PM me if yall are goin on a ride by Breaux Bridge
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 9:27:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree completely...but some people woud rather write a check...than do a little fab work of thier own.
I enjoyed designing/installing my snorkel.

oh...and you're welcome.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 10:16:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		my 300 die(d) when I hit water and I had a snorkel... just thinkin it could be a sparkplug boot problem?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:00:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe it one of the vent lines from the carb. First time I heard of that whole steam stuff, I dont belive steam could do that.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:07:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		It's common on the Rincon for the steam to kill the engine when you get in water that's a little deep.
And it happened repeatedly to my buddies Foreman.The only change we made was the snorkel...and it solved the problem.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:10:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		But when you snorkeled it did you also re-run all the vents? So does the rincon die running in the early mornings on a foggy day?

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:14:22 PM   
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:20:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		He had already extended all the vents...before we snorkeled it...and it was still stalling when he hit water nore than about 6" above the floorboard.

As for morning fog...there's a little difference between a foggy morning and an instant shot of heavy steam right in the intake.

But I'm not going to argue with you about it.You have more posts than I do and have been a member here longer.
So apparently I don't know what I'm talking about.You're right...I'm wrong.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:23:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		take a skrew and put in the bottom of the hose of the drain to the carb and block it off. if that dont work then SNORKLE that thing and go deep.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:35:38 PM   
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He had already extended all the vents...before we snorkeled it...and it was still stalling when he hit water nore than about 6" above the floorboard.

As for morning fog...there's a little difference between a foggy morning and an instant shot of heavy steam right in the intake.

But I'm not going to argue with you about it.You have more posts than I do and have been a member here longer.
So apparently I don't know what I'm talking about.You're right...I'm wrong.


Im not trying to argue with you, it just dosn't make sence that a bike will die from a little bit of steam. Your probably right because I dont own a rincon and its probably happened to you.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:38:55 PM   
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Truthfully...with the location of the factory intake on a Rincon(Foreman is in the same place),coupled with the shape of the seat,water hitting the hot engine actually sends quite a bit of steam directly into the intake.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:41:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thats just messed up, dieing in knee deep water. Never had the problem on my rancher, that thing went to about rack deep and then it die. But then its rebuild time, so I would rather the bike die in knee deep water then waist deep.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/23/2008 11:43:23 PM   
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/24/2008 12:36:12 AM   
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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/24/2008 6:23:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah...but what it does drain is usually just a drop or 2 at a time.
I have a golf tee stuck up in mine,and just check it after each ride.
The most I've ever had come out when I remove the tee is only enough to fill the tube about 1/4".
In my opinion...plugging it is a good idea...but with somethign that's easily removeable.

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RE: Problems in semi-deep water....... - 7/24/2008 8:19:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		This sounds exactly like what is happening to my Rancher ( 2006 )..everytime I hit water, even if it's 8" deep, over 5 miles an hour it will cut out, spit and spudder and loose power until everything dries off it seems..This time though it is continuing to cut out even after it dried out..so I'm just trying to think of the possibilities..

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