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Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/19/2008 5:36:18 PM

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I flooded my bike (in sig) yesterday at mud creek and I need some help. Had a bad spot in my snorkle. Is there a better way to get the water out of the motor than changing the oil over and over until it clears up? I have heard deisel fuel and a few other things. I changed it a few times and it is getting darker but it still has a ton of water in it. Also, It is smoking pretty bad. Is that just due to the water or do you think I might have burned the rings or something?

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/19/2008 5:51:01 PM

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i wouldn't use any diesel it robs the engine of lubricants, but if you do-do not crank it. there is marvel mysery oil and sea foam but if its already smoking then the damage is probably done. its most likely the rings that are burnt. i'm not really sure on anything about the rings other than how to change them. i would either take it apart and bring it to a mechanic have them check it out, unless you got the know how to fix it. then go from there. just make sure that you change the oil cooler, or clean it out really, really, really...........good make sure you get all of the dirt/sand out of the bottom of tha crank case

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/20/2008 8:50:18 AM

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I am afraid that you are right aout the rings. I was hoping that it was just blowing by them because the water thinned the oil out. I haven't gotten a chance to talk to anyone that has flooded one out so I wasn't sure if that was normal or an indicator tht I did some damage.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/20/2008 7:59:35 PM

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i think i would keep changin the oil and when it is clean run the bike for a little and see if the smoke clears up i bet it will

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/20/2008 10:22:40 PM

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but not for long the damage is most likely already done

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/20/2008 10:36:30 PM

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did the same thing with my brute put some oil in the cylinder to help lubricate the top ring this will help in freeing the rings up also it will smoke for a while but as long as you didnt run it to long before you changed the oil you should be ok ....On another subject does anyone know if there are any aftermarket oil cleaners for atvs like the amsol or similar would be a good investmate for mud riders like ourselves

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/21/2008 10:27:10 AM

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If you rode it afterwards and it started smoking I believe you have killed your rings. Hopefully you did not kill your bearings. A good rule of thumb is if you sink it dont crank it until you clean it.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/27/2008 9:09:09 PM

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DROWNED MINE, USED TRANNY OIL, IT HELPS CAPTURE THE WATER BETTER THAN REG OIL.....STILL GUNNA HAVE CHANGE OIL SEVERAL TIMES......AND YOUR RINGS ARE MORE THAN LIKELY GUNNA HAVE TO BE CHANGED.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/27/2008 10:25:07 PM

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Hey supersized if you don't mind me asking how did you sink the unsinkable popo they are pretty water proof :)

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/27/2008 10:38:43 PM

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HAD A GRIZZLY BEFORE!!!!! WASN'T AS WATER PROOF!!!!!! SWITCHED TO THE DARKSIDE.....GOTTA LOVE A POPO BABY!!!!!

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/27/2008 10:59:38 PM

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buy a few gallons of the cheap oil and like 5-6 oil filters and change and change and.... well you get the idea. change 2x per filter, gradually increasing the run times between changes till all signs of water are gone. EX: change 1&2 run for aprox 2 1/2min. put new filter, 3&4 5min. new filter etc. etc. As for the smoking, white or blue? did you drain the exhaust? thatll smoke(steam) for a while. undo the oil cooler and put some air to it to flush that out good. after like the 6-7th or more oil change get the good stuff and a new filter. And diesel will not hurt it as long as you dont run it more than a minute, diesel has a good amount of oil in it, it is actually a pretty good lube.

It is a frusterating and sometimes costly thing to rid an atv of ALL water.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/28/2008 7:21:53 AM

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How long did you run the motor with the milky oil in it? That's the important question,,,,,

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/28/2008 8:30:37 AM

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I looked at it after I got it out of the hole and once I realized it was milky I stopped running it. I am pretty sure I burned the rings. I have fixed all the other problems and it still smokes like a fogger truck. I don't have the know how (never tried) to tear into the motor and replace the rings and my local shop said it would be around $500 to replace the rings. I am basically screwed. I guess the old saying is right. Gotta pay to play.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/28/2008 8:36:30 AM

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If you don't have the proper tools to measure and hone the cylinder, don't do it. Do not install new rings into a used cylinder without first measuring and cleaning the cylinder up first.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/28/2008 8:40:59 AM

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That is not even something that I would attempt. I am just going to have to shut up and pay the money.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/29/2008 7:43:23 PM

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I ve sank my 08 honda rancher 5 times and its only 3 months old. Everytime I changed the oil and oil filter a few times,and everytime it smoked like a mofo for a while but it'll stop. That is if u didn't do no damage.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 8/29/2008 7:51:55 PM

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Yea it's a 50/50 chance really. I've sunk my Grizzly probably 8 times now. It's just now starting to lightly smoke. I'll run it till it lets go then rebuild it.

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 9/1/2008 9:45:35 PM

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run it till it dies then rebuild it. It may clear up, if not you won't have to worry about mosquitos for a while

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 9/2/2008 10:48:06 PM

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i agree. run it. it may stop. lol on the mosquitos :)
i had a sunk bike that smoked for a while then quit

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 9/4/2008 10:48:32 PM

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i sank one of mine drained oil and used kerosine and turned motor over couple times

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RE: Need Help I flooded my bike - 9/5/2008 12:37:53 AM

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I dunno man I drownded my big bear out once and had to ride it back about 3 miles cause it was 1am and it had a slight smoke to it after I drained it all out but I didnt let it bother me....it was only very very slightly of a smoke at all

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