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NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:27:42 PM

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guys im in the garage right now, yesturday i started my quad and today i just got off work and now doesn not start, acually no power at all. i checked the battery its fine and checked all the fuses and there fine. i turn the key and i have no power what so ever. Fuel pump doesnt come on, lights nothing just dead. Anyone know what this is? is there a inline fuse or something? i dont get it quad didnt move from over night to today and now nothing... HELP

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:41:33 PM

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try seeing if one of the battery cables rubbed thru on the frame and may have shorted it. well that wouldnt work cause the batt. wouldnt have voltage if that were the case.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:42:37 PM

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did you check the fuses by the battery also.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:48:00 PM

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did you check the fuses by the battery also.

Under the battery there is a plastic clip on box that holds to 30 amp fuses...check them for sure....should be some extras fuses in the top of your main fuse box...if you need them

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:48:21 PM

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Did you screw up the directional fuses?

Key in the right way?

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:50:08 PM

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Kill switch????????????????????

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:51:23 PM

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Did you screw up the directional fuses?

Key in the right way?

got the right key in it. most keys will fit and turn the ignition but will not do anything for power.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 9:53:41 PM

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how do you copy an original post an paste it like mudlabspecialist did. i feel like an idiot i cant figure it out.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 10:27:12 PM

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how do you copy an original post an paste it like mudlabspecialist did. i feel like an idiot i cant figure it out.

HIt the quote tab above the post you want...lol

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 10:33:52 PM

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ok guys i checked the directional fuses there correct and working. I checked the fuses in the back near the battery already there fine. i removed the kill switch and did in manuely it still does work. i tried my ingnition and key on my buddys outlander it worked but not on my bike. ive tried everything just dont get it? any more ideas as i already tried all those one thanks anyways.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 10:47:50 PM

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Maybe pull the pod off and make sure none off the plugs became disconnected.I would have sure thought it was one of those fuses in the back because they control alot.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:02:14 PM

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I just had this problem and after a week of a few people trouble shooting we found a wire about 8" into the wiring harness a wire broke at the solder. Talk about a headache. good luck

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:31:01 PM

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ya i pretty much tried everything and the closet dealer is 5 hours away, thing is i was at work today and was going to go out once i got off so my budy called me and told me he was going to put my new belt in for me as i was getting off late. So when i got home i ran into this problem as when i went to work everything is ok. all he said he touched was the belt so who knows? pisses me off i hate electrical trouble shooting.

once again i can turn the key and get no power at all nothing no lights power, fuel pump nothing

things i have tried

kill switch even changed it with my buds outlander
battery
fuses by battery, all 3 30 amps
fuses in front
relays in front
ignition switch as i put it on my buds quad and lights turned on as mine i get nothing

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:40:23 PM

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battery has voltage right.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:41:51 PM

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quote:

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battery has voltage right.

Well i dont have a voltage tester but i by passed it touching the silanoid with a screwdriver and it turned over no problem

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:42:44 PM

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put a tester on it and see what kind of voltage it has. also check the battery cables and make sure there not rubbed thru and touching the frame.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:45:56 PM

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lol it would be bad for all of this to be over a dead battery......

but thats not the case since it turned over.......

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/28/2008 11:50:04 PM

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start looking under the pod and make sure the ignition is plugged in good and tight. it should be fine i tried to get mine off one time and thought i was going to break it.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:02:30 AM

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change the relay with one you are absolutely 100 percent sure works, Check the engine ground it is located next to your right foot under the lower panel, Check the main ground which is bolted to to solenoid bracket. DID I SAY MAKE SURE THE MAIN RELAY IS REPLACED WITH ONE YOU are 100 percent sure works.... because the problem sounds EXACTLY like that is the issue. IF you jump the solenoid with a screw driver and it turns over and you have zero power that all says main relay among other things. however if you jump the solenoid and it turned over that means your grounds are least conductive.

Ps one more thing i read you changed the ignition with your buds did you try your key in his ignition... albeit odd for a bad key to act this way i have heard stranger things usually a key will turn everything on but will display wrong key (08) check engine (07 and older)

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:05:05 AM

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ok guys it is not the battery at all

ok we got some progress the derection fuses is screwing me up big time. i have it the proper way and i get nothing, turn them around i also get nothing. then on the top directional fuse i grab a light tester ground it to the bike stick in on the top left prong then a light comes on as i then grab the directional fuse place it back in backwards then the fuel pump comes in then the bike starts with ignition on or off. once it running i shut the ignition off and the bike keeps running. to shut the bike off i have to remove the direction fuse or a relay.

any guess to what it might be? im thinking theres a bad ground somewhere

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:08:17 AM

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thats kinda odd but it has helped me with another problem thanks :)

also check and see iff the diodes are hot. I would replace them with ones from the working bike. Also if my memory serves there is a 7 am fuse down the line from your rear fuses lets power to the pod.. i have never messed with just saw it on a diagram once if my memory is right

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:50:18 AM

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quote:

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thats kinda odd but it has helped me with another problem thanks :)

also check and see iff the diodes are hot. I would replace them with ones from the working bike. Also if my memory serves there is a 7 am fuse down the line from your rear fuses lets power to the pod.. i have never messed with just saw it on a diagram once if my memory is right

hey no prob, also checked both grounds on the bike there both good and still nothing

diodes ok you got me there whats that? also what do you mean 7 am fuse?

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:54:22 AM

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those are the what your calling directional fuses... I think if my memory serves man there is a 7.5 amp fuse down the line from the main 30 amp in the rear... i just remember seeing it on a diagram once but i could be wrong.

pull the directional fuses (diodes) from the working unit and try it make sure they go the right way

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 1:57:32 AM

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quote:

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those are the what your calling directional fuses... I think if my memory serves man there is a 7.5 amp fuse down the line from the main 30 amp in the rear... i just remember seeing it on a diagram once but i could be wrong.

pull the directional fuses (diodes) from the working unit and try it make sure they go the right way

been there done that nothing at all but im likeing to here about the in line fuse, where can i get a diagram

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:05:00 AM

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i saw it in the repair manual. follow the main wire from the back down and see i dont have a bike here at the house but i will to see if i can fins it tomorrow. you did check the solenoid nuts and made sure the 30 amp fuse is good

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:13:04 AM

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i saw it in the repair manual. follow the main wire from the back down and see i dont have a bike here at the house but i will to see if i can fins it tomorrow. you did check the solenoid nuts and made sure the 30 amp fuse is good

ya i did there all tight and good to go also the 30 amp fuses were all good

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:13:31 AM

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sorry to say if you have checked all those things and are 100% sure they are good there is only two things left a broken wire or ECM issue. i have heard of the ecm deleting the key slot before

one thing reach underneath the fuse box, where the wire loam come in and push them up try it then.. if you still get nothing check for broke prongs in the fuse box

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:15:22 AM

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sorry to say if you have checked all those things and are 100% sure they are good there is only two things left a broken wire or ECM issue. i have heard of the ecm deleting the key slot before

well i'll be calling the dealer tommorow and find out whats happening just sucks 4-5 hours away

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:20:35 AM

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yeah dude i know how aggravating it is...wish i could help ya more its hard to diagnose electrical over the forum. when you said it worked with the test light and backward diode i would have thought that was he issue right there that sucks though.

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RE: NEED HELP please................. - 11/29/2008 2:28:36 AM

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btw those diodes only work one way... they either open or close to check them you have to use an ohm meter... just makes no sense to me

one more thing have you recently put dielctric grease on the fuses if so wipe off any excess

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