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KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 4:47:49 PM   
muddin wolvy

 

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Status: offline 		I am moving up from a kodiak 450, great quad, not near enough power though. I am either getting a King Quad 700 or Brute Force 750. They will be used, since a new one just costs too much. (Hoping for $5000-5500 range)
I know the Brute has more power, but i was really wondering about the handling and ride of them.

Basically, which one has better handling, and how much better is it?
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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:01:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		KQ on the handling there buddy but the power difference rediculous.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:08:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		what exactly is bad about the BF's handling? Does it ride poorly,  or feel like u dont have much control or what?

another issue i have heard the BF's have is their reliability. is there any truth to these "rumors"?

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:28:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		they are reliable if you are smart bout what you do with them. the ride is bout the same as the king imo. power diff is huge tho. the main thing as far as handling is you gotta wathc the tie rods and tie rod ends on the brute,or get aftermarket ones cuz the stock ones arent very reliable.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:40:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		i have both and as far as the handleing goes that is the brute all the way.  the king quad steering is way to loose and it wil jerk the bars out of your hand if you hit a rut or a root on the trail.  that is what i hate the most about the KQ.  but in ride quality the KQ is way better.  its like comparing a cadillac to a go kart.  put like pine said...... the power diiference makes up for any sub par aspect of the brute

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:40:35 PM   
muddin wolvy

 

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Status: offline 		is there much differnce with the new Brutes? (the 08s)

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:47:02 PM   
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< Message edited by j08BRUTEenFORCEr -- 7/24/2008 5:56:38 PM >

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:55:02 PM   
muddin wolvy

 

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Status: offline 		i was refering(sp) to the ride and handling of it, and if the EFI helped it.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 5:59:57 PM   
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yes the o8's do ride better than the older brutes, but they are also 1.5" lower.  and when you turn the springsall the way up and put a 2" lift on it then your back to the same old stiff ride.  and yes the efi is awesome but it has its issues being that it is the first year.  the KQ has been efi since 05 so they have all the bugs worked out already.

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HL 2inch lift
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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 6:03:08 PM   
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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 6:04:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		BRUTE FORCE BY FAR!!  KING QUADS ARE TRAIL 4 WHEELERS!!!

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 6:05:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		everyone says that but i would much rather ride my brute on a trail.  KQ is better at riding deep water though

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 6:10:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thats why I have one, EFI and Single Cylinder. Cant beat that in water IMO. Well maybe a Rincon 680 EFI, Single Cylinder, and No Belt.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 9:35:35 PM   
muddin wolvy

 

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Status: offline 		Im sure the BF can get the front end up pretty easily, but can the King?

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/24/2008 10:06:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahhh so so. http://s247.photobucket.com/albums/gg121/Solitude700/?action=view&current=100_2013.flv 

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 12:47:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		yea if honda could get a sealed gear drive tranny behind a more powerful motor(v twin maybe),and efi it,id def own one.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 6:06:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: pinemtnbrute

yea if honda could get a sealed gear drive tranny behind a more powerful motor(v twin maybe),and efi it,id def own one.


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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 7:04:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		lol man that is for sure...i cant believe honda and yamaha...they are so far behind i dont think they can catch up..

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 7:58:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		brute all the way..they changed some of the suspension on the 08's so they handle much better..the king quad has NO POWER compared to the 750 brutes..trust me, go with the brute

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 8:42:44 PM   
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quote:

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brute all the way..they changed some of the suspension on the 08's so they handle much better..the king quad has NO POWER compared to the 750 brutes..trust me, go with the brute
actually the kq will stay right up with the brute really well from a takeoff for a single cylinder vs a vtwin....seen it. several times. it was a shock. and they were both 08s.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 9:07:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		well i would love to get a new 08 brute, but my pockets dont seem to be deep enough :(  so im gonna try and find a cheap King Quad and do a few mods to that and that outa b purdy good.

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/25/2008 10:04:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have had both go with the brute trust me the kq is a dog (a big one that is lazy).

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/26/2008 12:22:33 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BRUTE750ii

brute all the way..they changed some of the suspension on the 08's so they handle much better..the king quad has NO POWER compared to the 750 brutes..trust me, go with the brute
you have no business speaking up on subjects you know nothing about.  you don't even know your own bike.......  you have asked more questions in the past week then i have ever seen before.  i am suprised you haven't asked someone to show you how to ride it!!!!!! 

you got 2 ears and 1 mouth.........so listen twice as much s you talk!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/26/2008 12:33:15 AM   
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Status: offline 		hey joebruteenforcer...you should shut up..i ride king quads all the time, so i think i would no..the only reason i ask alot of questions, is so that im 100 % sure about my machine, and when i want to buy something for it.. oo and, your suprised someone hasnt tought me to ride..HAHA..man, you may have more mods on your brute than me, but ill own you anyday

< Message edited by BRUTE750ii -- 7/26/2008 12:53:51 AM >

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/26/2008 12:54:22 AM   
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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/26/2008 12:55:37 AM   
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quote:

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hey joebruteenforcer...you should shut up..i ride king quads all the time, so i think i would no..the only reason i ask alot of questions, is so that im 100 % sure about my machine, and when i want to buy something for it..
pm sent

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2008 Super Black brute force 750i
FMOS Built Motor
Wiseco pistons
Web cams
Full muzzy exhaust
WARN 2.5xt winch
center snorkled
HID 10000k headlights
custom audio-pipe speaker box
HL 2inch lift
31" outlaws on MSA platoons
and a cooler full of beer!!!!!!!

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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/28/2008 9:12:48 AM   
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RE: KQ or BF?? - 7/28/2008 8:56:07 PM   
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