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Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 1:22:50 PM

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So I'm taking the brute to get it looked at at the end of the week and just thought I would get on here and play around and see the ideas that are come up with that could be wrong. I am feeling a slight loss of power, it smokes every now and again, and is burning quite a large amount of oil. Oh and Saturday I was riding and we hit a wide open strip and it slowly lost more and more power until it was barely sputtering to run a measley 5 mph. Turned it off let it sit for a few minutes fired it back up and it went back to the slighty power loss. When I say slight power loss the bike won't run over 25mph and the motor just sounds like it is struggling pretty bad to do that.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 1:34:21 PM

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Sounds like it needs some new rings.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 1:38:20 PM

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Thats what I was guessing. That and probably valve adjustment/job. Hoping thats all it is anyway.....

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 1:50:33 PM

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quote:

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Sounds like it needs some new rings.

agreed

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 2:11:38 PM

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have you verified that both cylinders are firing?

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 3:05:32 PM

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No I didn't actually. I was so hung up on it being the rings I didnt even think bout that. Thanks I will definitly check that when I get the plastics off. I was just leaning a lot more towards the rings since its burning oil.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 3:08:16 PM

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Also if I am lucky enough for it to only need rings anyone know a ball park figure on what that should cost?

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 3:25:49 PM

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well i would think it potentially smoke from the unburnt fuel from dropping a cylinder
u said it smoked from time to time. i know it wouldnt have very much power on 1 cylinder.
I think fuel smoke is black. what color is your smoke?

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 3:30:03 PM

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White which is another reason I was leanin towards rings.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 4:19:50 PM

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you could have fowled a plug and only one cylinder is firing. did the same thing to the wife's brute. the choke was stuck open and just runnin rich rich and fixed it but it was too late for the plug. change the plugs and see if it runs better.

have you done jetting changes after the snorkels?

and have you ever gotten water in the motor??

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/25/2008 6:42:38 PM

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ORIGINAL: BruteWise

you could have fowled a plug and only one cylinder is firing. did the same thing to the wife's brute. the choke was stuck open and just runnin rich rich and fixed it but it was too late for the plug. change the plugs and see if it runs better.

have you done jetting changes after the snorkels?

and have you ever gotten water in the motor??

did this too,my choke got stuck open also on one cylinder and it ran like garbage then.So ill never use the choke again lol.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 9:55:31 AM

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No I didn't rejet it after the snorkels but its been done for over a month now and actually seemed to run better right after they were installed. No as far as I know I have not gotten any water in the motor. Change the oil very regularly and is never milky or anything. I understand what ya'll are saying about the plugs but that wouldn't make it burn oil.....I mean I'm putting a quart + at the very least in it after every ride.

< Message edited by nicholsonmotorsports -- 11/26/2008 9:59:57 AM >

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 10:40:13 AM

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if u do lots of wheelies, that's where your oil is going..

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 10:46:40 AM

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Lol. Yea I thought bout that also so this last ride when it actually hit the worst its been I made a point to not do any wheelies and still burnt oil.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 11:16:38 AM

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my oil escapes to wheelie land.
I gotta do the catch can mod.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 11:39:41 AM

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Not to get off the topic but Whats the catch can mod?

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 12:11:55 PM

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it catches the oil the is puked out the crank case vent and lets it drain back into the motor.
I can find the link to show u what it is if u would like. there's a write-up with pics.

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RE: Ideas: Catastrophic or semi minor? - 11/26/2008 12:24:33 PM

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here it is right here..
Catch Can Mod with Pics
http://www.highlifter.com/forum/m_1799258/mpage_1/key_Question%2cabout%2ctype%2cOil/tm.htm#1799258

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