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Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 8:36:59 PM

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my buddy is considering upgrading from a foreman to one of the big bores.

He has said that he wouldnt mind getting a grizzly but wanted to look at a rincon as well. I know that all the different wheelers have there good points and bad even our grizzlys.

I have know that the rincons dont have a locker or a low gear. I have also heard they dont have the power to turn bigger tires and there is pretty much no engine brake.

We like to ride in mud and he was wanting to put pretty much the same set up as i have in my sig on which ever bike he gets.

He thinks that the rincon would do ok with the 31"s. He thinks it would go anywhere a grizzly would go if the GC was the same. What are yalls thoughts on the subject?

He asked me to try to get some info on the two so i thought i would ask the exsperts on HL.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 8:56:43 PM

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from what ive heard, the only way he will have a prayer of turnin 31s is to get a gear reduction and a lot of mods. i really prefer the grizz a LOT more. but hopefully others with more experience with these 2 bikes will chime in.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:01:16 PM

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Thats what i was hearing. I do ride with one guy with a rincon but it is stock and he dosent plan on modding it.

thanks for the reply. If anyone has any exsperiance with the rincon let me know what you think. Likes and dislikes. Whould you get the bike again or go another direction?

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:06:25 PM

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The grizzlys will run circles around a Rincon. You can put 31's on a Grizzly stock and be fine just as long as you stay out of the really gooie stuff. You put a few mods on the 700 you wont have a problem. Put alot of mods on the Rincon you mite beable to keep up with the 700. The Rincon mite beable to keep up with the Grizzly 550. Dont get me wrong now the Rincon is a fine bike but there 2 diffrent machines. Kinda comparing a 700 to the thundercat.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:06:52 PM

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If he wants to put on 31s he should not look and the Rincon. Its a Great quad no question about it BUT it is not a mud quad it is a trail quad.
He should get the Grizz 700 if he wants to take it mudding..

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:09:36 PM

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Here I just found this, I posted this awhile back it should answer all your questions. Grizzly 700 vs rincon 680
http://www.highlifter.com/forum/08_GRIZZLY_700_VS_08_HONDA_RINCON_%3f!%3f!/m_2658062/tm.htm

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:11:45 PM

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Grizzly all the way.

put it in the Honda section and I will say the same response

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:13:02 PM

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I agree with yall. thanks for the replys.

So what you all are saying is the rincon is just really under powered. I will let him know.

I told him the same thing yesterday but he had trouble beliveing that a 680 and a 686 (700) would have that much diffreance between the two. The rincons also have ES so why cant you just put it in first for the low gear?

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:29:58 PM

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Its not so much its under powered its the fact it does not have a low gear, the low gear it has is not really very low at all compared to other quads.

If it had a low range in the tranny and diff lock it would be a whole different story.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:31:48 PM

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Grizzly!!! Honda can't spell Horsepower

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 9:54:13 PM

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quote:

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I agree with yall. thanks for the replys.

So what you all are saying is the rincon is just really under powered. I will let him know.

I told him the same thing yesterday but he had trouble beliveing that a 680 and a 686 (700) would have that much diffreance between the two. The rincons also have ES so why cant you just put it in first for the low gear?

Thats a good question?
Grizzly 700 HP-45.6
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Rincon 680 HP-38.5
Curb Weight-648 lbs
Now thats a big factor between the two. As for the low gear. When you put the 700 in low you can fill the torque, it fills as if you can only go up to about 10 mph, the Rincon is set up like a 3spd tansmisson like a car. you start off in 1st and end in 3rd. 1st gear is not set up like a low gear. Its hard to explain.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:10:50 PM

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tell him to wait for the 09 hondas to come out before he purchases a grizzly.. yeah i said purchase a grizzly! only reason being is honda hasnt given us honda riders any hope of a low gear and locker in the rincon but the big red did get a locker and its an 09 model with same engine and tranny as the rincon. get this, it tops out @ 39 so the big red has some low gears somewhere! i say just wait for the 09 honda lineup to come out in september and if honda doesnt impress,

definately get the grizz! jmo

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:16:02 PM

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i had a rincon and traded it for a grizzly 700, and id never go back. huge difference in power. hek i also like my 660 over my old rincon also

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:34:09 PM

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i have a rincon and i HAD a 660 griz, and i will tell you the rincon will NEVER turn 31" tires even w/ a gear reduction and all the mods you can add. but the rincons belt will NEVER slip like the grizzes WILL, so ask your self do you want to ride back on 27's or be pulled back on 31's

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:42:35 PM

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either way both are gettin pulled cause honda rincon cant turn 27s in deep mud i had 27 mudlites on my rincon.. GO WITH GRIZZLY OR BE SORRY

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:43:02 PM

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i have a rincon and i HAD a 660 griz, and i will tell you the rincon will NEVER turn 31" tires even w/ a gear reduction and all the mods you can add. but the rincons belt will NEVER slip like the grizzes WILL, so ask your self do you want to ride back on 27's or be pulled back on 31's

You can think of it like that. But Yamaha's Grizzly has perfected its belt. Would you rather replace a 100 dollor belt? or transmission?

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 10:53:05 PM

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i turn 27" mud bugs all day in louisiana mud and as far as the belt my grizz was an 07. i dought they fixed it as water leaked it from the intake and exhaust of the belt drive. but you are all right, if you wanna turn 31" tires and mud bog a belt slipping grizz is the one for you.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 11:01:02 PM

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Ride this all the time, no water in my belt housing and no snorkles.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 11:10:34 PM

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a Rincon just can't stay up with a Grizzly in the mud. the Rincon is a great trail bike, but it will never turn 31's no matter what you do to it.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 11:10:58 PM

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/21/2008 11:21:57 PM

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well i am not going to argu facts that i know from owning both bikes, grizz31 i am sure your friend will love his new bike no matter what is is.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 12:05:25 AM

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I would DEF say Grizz over the Honda just because I have heard the Rincon is lacking tremendously in power.......Or you could go with something even bigger such as a POPO 800 or 850

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 6:25:45 AM

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I owned a rincon for about 6 months, all i done was trail ride until winter, put some 26" 589 on it. It was OK in the mud i thought until i went riding with a couple of buddies, two grizzlies and a popo they could spin out the thick mud and roll right on through it seemed like i was in slow motion in the bad mud. As far as deep water i loved it. But the honda does lack the power, needs a low selection in tranny i now own 08 grizz. I went to a dealership where they sell yamaha,honda and polaris. I was basically told if i was considering the grizzly or popo not to even put the honda in that class because there was no comparison.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 1:24:55 PM

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Agreed Honda lacks in big bore

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 2:16:47 PM

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i turn 27" mud bugs all day in louisiana mud and as far as the belt my grizz was an 07. i dought they fixed it as water leaked it from the intake and exhaust of the belt drive. but you are all right, if you wanna turn 31" tires and mud bog a belt slipping grizz is the one for you.

If you get water in your belt system I don't care what bike you ride it will slip......

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 2:42:15 PM

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/22/2008 5:10:26 PM

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I have never had a problem with my belt

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/23/2008 6:33:15 AM

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I ride with two buddies, one has a Grizz 700 and the other a Rincon 680. In my opinion, As far as refinement of the suspension, the rincon has the grizz beat. Accerleration (With tires) is much better on the Grizz. Also, there is not way you will run 31" on the Rincon without a gear reduction, On the Rincon forums, they say 27" should be the biggest you run. I would go with the Grizzly, Its more setup for what you want to do.

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/23/2008 8:24:40 AM

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recently i went ridin with some friends of mine... i was the only yamaha in the group... but two bikes were rincons and both had a hmf snorkel and 28in ****s... the bikes would NOT turn the tires in mud... i like my dads ole forman 500 but when a bb 400 (with some tinkerin done to it) will walk off and leave a bike of that size in a mud hole somethin is bad wrong...

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RE: Honda Rincon or Grizzly - 8/23/2008 8:26:28 AM

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grizz31 You shouldn't even say Rincon &
31" Laws on the same line!! LOL! I don't htink it would turn them at all, in the mud. I don't/nor have I owned a Rincon, but was talked out of getting 1 by some great friends & still thank them for it!

IMO It's a great trail rig as stated, but I've only seen like 3-4 that were set up for mudding & the money they had tied up, they could have kept the Rincon(stock) & nearly paid for the mudding bike!! Tell him he's gonna need more than GOOD LUCK if he gets the Rincon intending what you mentioned! Later & hope this helps your bud out Brandon

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