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Factory exhaust under water. - 8/26/2008 10:11:31 PM

FreddyB.

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Bike: POPO 800 HO

What can I do to make my factory duels breathe better under more than three feet of water?

I was wondering if I removed the second pipe, would this get the job done till I can AFFORD an AAEN?

I know it would be louder but since it has a 2" opening where the second pipe attaches, I figured it would breathe better....

Any advise appreciated......

< Message edited by FreddyB. -- 8/26/2008 10:14:46 PM >

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/26/2008 11:14:04 PM

POPO800EFI

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I would honestly just leave it how it is until you can afford a AAEN, I mean you do not wanna go jacking with the bike until you have the money to actually do something worth while to it.....A AAEN is 389 from triangle atv

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3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 7:43:01 AM

TexasMudderBF650

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no problems at all with my stock exhaust in deep water over 5 ft. if your having problems then its not your exhaust.

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:26:59 AM

FreddyB.

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When ever I get in a good deep mud hole, the super thick nasty stuff my bike slowly dies.

Ive had my exhaust under water and its fine at about a foot..

I havent had it super deep yet and dont know how it will do when the pipes get 5 or 6 ft under water. I just wanna make sure its gonna breathe.

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06 KODIAK 450i
JETTED
FULLY SNORKELED
HMF UTILITY PIPE
2" MOOSE LIFT & HL SPRINGS
ITP 27" MUDLITES ON ITP SS112s
BACK REST
WARN 2500
TUNES UP FRONT

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 10:02:35 AM

polaristex

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spark plug problem? did you put dielectric grease on connections

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 10:03:03 AM

TexasMudderBF650

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and far as aftermarket exhaust don't know if you heard one yet but the slip on hot seat performance (hsp) sounds awesome compared to the aeen. thats what i'm getting here pretty soon.

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29.5 Outlaws 10 front 12's back, EPI red secondary/ pink primary, Highlifter 2" lift, HMF exhaust S/O, dynatek cdi, Whelen strobes, k&n air filter, HL High capacity springs,

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 11:22:38 AM

FreddyB.

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Oh yeah its deffinatly got dielectric grease in the boots and connectors.
Besides if the wires or plugs were gettin wet it would sputter or run ruff before it died, and it doesnt.
It idles down smooth and slowly till it dies.
Im thinking the thick mud is not letting the exhaust out and it is killin it. Kinda like puttin your hands over the exhaust outlets.

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08 SP 800 HO SNORKLED LIFTED and LAWED w/Tunes
06 KODIAK 450i
JETTED
FULLY SNORKELED
HMF UTILITY PIPE
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ITP 27" MUDLITES ON ITP SS112s
BACK REST
WARN 2500
TUNES UP FRONT

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 11:32:13 AM

vanillagorilla

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if your exhaust is in that thick of mud it doesn't matter what exhaust is on it it will die. water with the factory shouldn't be a problem. but imo if u an exhaust stick with the hsp. they sound better than anything else on a polaris.

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 12:32:34 PM

let_it_be_known

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I totally agree with you vanillagorilla. i would say maybe its the steam from the motor sucking into your intake and killing your quad.. according to your avatar it doesn't look snorkeled.. when mine was STOCK it would instantly kill it before i snorkeled it. no spit or sputter before it died..

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 3:35:42 PM

POPO800EFI

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You should of taken the front rach off and went to town on dielectric greasing everything in sight probably willl take you 15 to 20 minutes

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3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 4:54:07 PM

REBELRIDER

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This has been discussed time and time again. I once believed it didnt matter, but had the same prob out of another 700 at around 5ft. deep. Put an AAEN on it and it hasnt missed a lick since....................

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 4:58:37 PM

Foulplay

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quote:

ORIGINAL: REBELRIDER

This has been discussed time and time again. I once believed it didnt matter, but had the same prob out of another 700 at around 5ft. deep. Put an AAEN on it and it hasnt missed a lick since....................

Exactly. From what I've read, some bikes have this problem and some don't.

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 5:05:55 PM

djhawthorn21

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Mine would do the same thing in about 4.5 to 5 ft of water. I put a aeen on and it has ran fine in since. I would get a diffrent pipe than aaen havent heard hsp but the quality of the aeen is crap

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 5:19:06 PM

FreddyB.

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Thank you all for your input.

popo800efi - The day I brought it home from the showroom I striped the bike down to the frame and dielectric greased every connector and then some.....
INCLUDING the plug wires on both ends.

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06 KODIAK 450i
JETTED
FULLY SNORKELED
HMF UTILITY PIPE
2" MOOSE LIFT & HL SPRINGS
ITP 27" MUDLITES ON ITP SS112s
BACK REST
WARN 2500
TUNES UP FRONT

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 6:50:06 PM

425 Xpedition

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Get the HSP slip on. Don't waste your money on the Aaen. Been there done that. If you want a completely hollow Aaen i have one laying around. All of the guts rusted out of it.

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 8:39:14 PM

POPO800EFI

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Why do yall say AAEN is so bad ?

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 8:41:33 PM

djhawthorn21

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I have the rebuilable one the paint burns off on the first ride. And now it rattles at low rpms

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:04:32 PM

POPO800EFI

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Well does it at least have a good sound honestly A?

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:06:46 PM

djhawthorn21

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yes it sounds good except for the rttle that sounds like crap

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:09:25 PM

POPO800EFI

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well triangle only recommends the aaen for water or trails

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:28:07 PM

djhawthorn21

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Then buy a aaen. they have one called the mega power that is all stainless for a little more $, i dont know how it sounds. I know i will never buy another aaen.

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29.5 12 OUTLAWS ON ALL FOUR
VISION RIMS
SNORKLED THROUGH SPEAKER BOX
AAEN PIPE

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:29:31 PM

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quote:

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well triangle only recommends the aaen for water or trails

How do you know that? Did you call them? It doesn't say that on their website anywhere. If that's all they recommend, then that's probably because it's the only one they sell/carry.

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'05 Popo 700 carb on 29.5" Outlaws

'07 Popo 500 H.O. EFI (hers) on 27" Outlaws

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http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p44/Foulplay_photo/

This Honda's gone...
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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:36:39 PM

POPO800EFI

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That is what they told me when I called.....I asked about the mudslinger and supertrapp to AL and he said no the AAEN is better for water play

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:38:19 PM

Foulplay

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quote:

ORIGINAL: POPO800EFI

That is what they told me when I called.....I asked about the mudslinger and supertrapp to AL and he said no the AAEN is better for water play

Okay, I'll take your word for it as I don't know for sure and haven't spoken with them about it.

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'06 Popo 800 EFI on 29.5" Outlaws

'05 Popo 700 carb on 29.5" Outlaws

'07 Popo 500 H.O. EFI (hers) on 27" Outlaws

'78 Jeep CJ-7 w/304 V8

http://s125.photobucket.com/albums/p44/Foulplay_photo/

This Honda's gone...
http://video.yahoo.com/watch/341841/2183512

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:39:11 PM

POPO800EFI

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Yup yup I am shooting you straight on it my brotha from anotha motha

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

(in reply to Foulplay)

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:50:11 PM

FreddyB.

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Triangle, Berts dirt works, most Polaris mechanics and about 85% of every body I have talked to say that the AAEN gives the most power gains and breathes the best under water.

when I talk about under water im talking on a water wheely with the exhaust about 5-6 feet under

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08 SP 800 HO SNORKLED LIFTED and LAWED w/Tunes
06 KODIAK 450i
JETTED
FULLY SNORKELED
HMF UTILITY PIPE
2" MOOSE LIFT & HL SPRINGS
ITP 27" MUDLITES ON ITP SS112s
BACK REST
WARN 2500
TUNES UP FRONT

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:52:01 PM

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Yup yup exactly......

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

(in reply to FreddyB.)

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/27/2008 9:59:08 PM

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I have a friend with a fmf on his polaris and he can follow me any where i go. and that is about 5 to 5.5 ft of water

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SNORKLED THROUGH SPEAKER BOX
AAEN PIPE

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/28/2008 3:44:23 PM

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The Hot Seat slip on works great under water and does not fall apart like the Aaen. It also has a deeper tone than the Aaen.

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RE: Factory exhaust under water. - 8/28/2008 3:46:49 PM

POPO800EFI

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When you say fall apart.....How does the AAEN fall apart ? I have heard they get louder over time

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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