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Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 1:38:13 PM

TheBig450ES

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I've hear that some have double gear reductions of their hondas how is this possoble ? adding a transfer case? or new gears in the diffs?

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 3:49:12 PM

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One reduction goes in the front and one goes in the back.=X2 reduction.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 3:52:36 PM

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but that would be a single for the front and single for the back
I thought it would be a compounding reduction and not a parallel reduction.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 3:54:38 PM

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It is a single for the front and a single for the back."Double reduction"

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 4:05:03 PM

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The Rancher 420 is the only model that you can do double reduction on, I believe. If I'm not mistaken, you use the Turners/HL reduction that was made for the Foreman 500 and then there is another one that is made by one of the forum members. Green420 is the guy to talk to about it.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 4:05:18 PM

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it is a true double reduction one being used by changing the primary and basket gear and the other in line with it not really sure if the other one is part of the tranny or if its for the output shaft or what it is not one for the front and one for the back i dont know where he got that from

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 4:15:53 PM

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I belive it is changing the primary and basket for one reduction and the drive gear for the other reduction.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 4:16:19 PM

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Thats what i was thinking, front and back i can see changing diff gears but thats about it

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 4:31:41 PM

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unless he means one is in the back of the engine the other in front which is true

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 5:53:14 PM

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yes one reduction goes in the front case of the motor by changing the primary gear and clutch basket gear. The second reduction is in the rear engine case and changes the output gear in the transmission by taking away teeth from the original gear by replacing it with a new gear with less teeth.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 6:19:53 PM

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yes one reduction goes in the front case of the motor by changing the primary gear and clutch basket gear. The second reduction is in the rear engine case and changes the output gear in the transmission by taking away teeth from the original gear by replacing it with a new gear with less teeth.

Yup that is right. I have them both on my bike and it will turn anything i put on it or take it through

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 7:09:21 PM

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^^ My lord have mercy you are running Extremranchers reduction and the turner reduction with only 27" swamplites

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 7:21:41 PM

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WOW, what dose it feel like with 2x reduction

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 7:35:57 PM

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You can also run both in 500 Foreman's.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 7:54:15 PM

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There is no 2nd reduction for the foremans to my knowledge. Cite your source for that info

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 10:20:08 PM

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xtreme's works in the foremans as well. So does the turner one. I might have one for sale pretty soon.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 10:26:45 PM

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Hmm thats good to know. Is this only for the new foremans?

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/26/2008 10:53:45 PM

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quote:

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Hmm thats good to know. Is this only for the new foremans?

the 500s

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 1:24:05 AM

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quote:

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^^ My lord have mercy you are running Extremranchers reduction and the turner reduction with only 27" swamplites

Unfortunately yes. Had the tires before the reductions. Money is tight now so gotta deal with the little tires for a while

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 2:41:49 PM

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You should be able to peel em off the rim. lol

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 3:15:47 PM

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You should be able to peel em off the rim. lol

Hahahahahaahaha yeah just about. Its kinda crazy, i have the clutch kit in as well and i have hardly any first gear,but will start going in the worst mud you can put at it. I really wouldn't suggest the clutch kit with both reductions. Its just not needed. I was just to lazy to take it out. Cuz first i did the turner reduction along with the clutch kit which was great but was gonna upgrade tires to huge so i put in the other reduction later on and didn't take out the clutch. But now money is tight so tires are gonna wait

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 3:17:04 PM

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since it works for foremans does it work 4 rubicons?

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 3:18:15 PM

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No rubicons take a special turner reduction which most people have been waitin on for years. I dont think anybody actually has one yet.

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RE: Double gear reduction - 11/27/2008 7:57:49 PM

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If anybody is interested in a tuner one hit me up. I have an extra one !