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Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 7:20:56 PM

07rincon

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Well i finally took my HMF Swamp Series off and gained power... Noticed a GREAT power loss when i put it on. Anyone alse have this problem?

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 7:59:16 PM

B.W.L 500

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Something is wrong,FO SHO!!!Im running a Swamp Series pipe on my Foreman,and I gained alot of power,you better check to make sure its not messed up........

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 8:36:47 PM

BIG BEAR 08

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could the spark arrestor be plugged up? or is there a spark arrestor in the swamp series?

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 8:46:55 PM

B.W.L 500

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no,but you could put one.....

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 10:08:42 PM

Troublemaker

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Did you re-jet it?

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 10:14:17 PM

dcfox

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A 680 Rincon is FI...no jets.
I'd agree...something is wrong.You should have definitely seen a power gain with the pipe...especially with all of the other mods.

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 10:40:25 PM

1badsierra

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tune it. pc3

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Uni filter
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Custom Snorkel

Honda 300 Fourtrax
ITP 25in mud-lites
Black 420 rims
Custom Snorkle

2002 GMC Sierra
6in Superlift lift
Superlift dual shock hoops
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RE: Back to stock... - 8/15/2008 10:52:19 PM

tweeter

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He's got an HMF Optimizer which should do the same thing for the most part as the PCIII shouldn't it?????

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2006 Honda Rincon
2" HL Lift
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28x12 rear Outlaws
12" ITP SS112 rims
Bayou Snorkle
Warn 3.0 winch
HMF exhaust
K&N FILTER
OUTERWEARS PRE-FILTER
HMF OPTIMIZER
HIGH COMPRESSION PISTON
MUDBUSTER CAM
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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:23:51 PM

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No I dont think the optimizer can be compared to the pc3. You dont have nearly as much control and for some reason the optimizer is set up to be ran with the airbox lid off. Something I would not do. JMO but I think the pc3 would let you get the gains out of your pipe that you expected.

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:26:52 PM

tweeter

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Your serious, I have one but never knew that it was meant for the it to be run with the airbox lid off......How much more is the PCIII than the optimizer???

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2006 Honda Rincon
2" HL Lift
28x9.5 front Outlaws
28x12 rear Outlaws
12" ITP SS112 rims
Bayou Snorkle
Warn 3.0 winch
HMF exhaust
K&N FILTER
OUTERWEARS PRE-FILTER
HMF OPTIMIZER
HIGH COMPRESSION PISTON
MUDBUSTER CAM
Camofouge.
Its a mean SOB

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:30:03 PM

Trev_Rancher

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Double check on that one before you take my word but I talked to the guys at hmf when i got my pipe and they set that their optimizer was set up for my bike with the airbox lid off. Also if you look at the hmf/optimizer dyno graphs that they show it will say no optimizer and opt. with airbox lid removed. I think some guys were sayign they got the pciii as cheap as 270 but I'm not sure where. I wouldn't totally rule out the fact that there is something wrong with the pipe because I'm not an expert on the topic but the pc3 would be my suggestion.It also lets u take away fuel so if your running rich the opt. will do nothing for you and could cause you to lose power.

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:36:31 PM

1badsierra

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I can get you a pc3 for 265

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ORIGINAL: Trev_Rancher

Double check on that one before you take my word but I talked to the guys at hmf when i got my pipe and they set that their optimizer was set up for my bike with the airbox lid off. Also if you look at the hmf/optimizer dyno graphs that they show it will say no optimizer and opt. with airbox lid removed. I think some guys were sayign they got the pciii as cheap as 270 but I'm not sure where. I wouldn't totally rule out the fact that there is something wrong with the pipe because I'm not an expert on the topic but the pc3 would be my suggestion.It also lets u take away fuel so if your running rich the opt. will do nothing for you and could cause you to lose power.

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Honda 420 Rancher Camo
28in ****s
Black ITP SS212s
Moose 2in lift
HMF Black utility series
Uni filter
Warn RT 2.5
Custom Snorkel

Honda 300 Fourtrax
ITP 25in mud-lites
Black 420 rims
Custom Snorkle

2002 GMC Sierra
6in Superlift lift
Superlift dual shock hoops
37x13.50-20 Nitto Mud Grapplers
20" KMC Backseats
Rhino lined
UWS tool box
Flowmaster 40 series duals
Optima red top
Kicker

www.rcsperformanceonline.com

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:39:14 PM

02rancher350

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Like said above something is wroung when i put My HMF on my bike i noticed a power increase not a decrease somthing must be wroung

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-H/L leak sheild
-Kimpex Front bumper
-Quadrax rear bumper
-Uni airfilter
-Outerwears prefilter
-Powermadd handguards
-H/L bash plate
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RE: Back to stock... - 8/16/2008 1:45:57 PM

Trev_Rancher

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Yea I would agree that something is wrong. Maybe check the condition of your air filter. If its dirty it may be restricting air causing you to run rich and robbing you of horsepower. Not sure but it would be something to check. Again I am by no means an expert on this so theres a good chance im wrong.

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RE: Back to stock... - 8/17/2008 12:32:57 AM

little grasshopper

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When I first put my Swamp Series on my fi Rincon I noticed a drop in power even after I tuned it. With alot more tuning my bike is running better than when it was stock even with the lift and 28in Bugs. It will flat out smoke a stock 680 and the top speed is 70mph. Tuning the bottom end was the toughest part to get right. Every time I thought I needed more fuel, I exctually needed less but I have a Dynatek contoller and was tuning mine at the most advanced fuel curve on the controller.

Tuning the stock pipe was easy. Just a little made it worse with the Swamp it seems right no matter where it was set until I found the sweet spot!

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