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Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 7:41:03 PM

TBONESGRIZZ

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2008 Ford F250??? Mines bone stock right now, want to get my smoke back so to speak. Passed an 08 this morning with stock exhaust that smoked like a Mac truck when he left the light. Will a programmer alone do this or do you have to remove the DPF?

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 8:39:08 PM

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You will have to remove the DPF to make your truck last. WE use the SCT programs and a Flow Pro DPF delete kit.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 8:42:55 PM

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SCT is a very good programmer on fords...

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 8:45:33 PM

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and that will make the 08s blow black smoke?

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 8:54:42 PM

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You mean like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AMkv5pKwY&feature=related

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 9:39:51 PM

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My brother-in-laws SCT tuner wiped his PCM on his 06 F-350 one time, they paid to fix at least. He has a Bully Dog now I think.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 9:52:46 PM

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So you saying you don't want the warrenty on your new 08 truck and like taking he risk of a ticket? That kits not worth it to me.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 9:56:33 PM

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So you saying you don't want the warrenty on your new 08 truck and like taking he risk of a ticket? That kits not worth it to me.

The wonderfull thing about tuners is you can take them out when there is a warranty problem and they will never find out unless you tell them.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:15:39 PM

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quote:

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So you saying you don't want the warrenty on your new 08 truck and like taking he risk of a ticket? That kits not worth it to me.

The wonderfull thing about tuners is you can take them out when there is a warranty problem and they will never find out unless you tell them.

I wish this was true, however a qualified mechanic can search the stock computer for signs of a programmer installed, even if it has been removed. They do not normally go to this trouble unless they think that the damage or warranty work is not a standard problem or malfunction of the trucks normal duties. CtownForeman, I'm not worried about warranty stuff really, a good dealer will back the warranty in most cases no matter what, and I don't know how it is in Texas, but in Mississippi they are not gonna write a ticket for black smokin...

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:17:34 PM

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thats what im talking about .i thought it screwed up the computer or something maybe it was just rumors. that is one nice ford in that video.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:21:28 PM

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No thats what you are told. Dealers can find out if a tuner has been installed. A tuner replaces your stock settings but does it delete what everything it has read and stored? No.

A DPF delete kit does void warrenty and is illegal for on the road operation. Your messing with the enviroment and thats not something to mess with right now.

Black smoke does nothing but polute. It's fuel not burned and with diesel at $5.00 a gallon to me it's not worth to watch it go out the tailpipe. It's just power not used. There are better and cleaner ways to get a diesel to run without throwing a programmer and a straight exhaust on it.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:30:52 PM

CTownForeMan

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quote:

ORIGINAL: TBONESGRIZZ

quote:

ORIGINAL: HondaGuy

quote:

ORIGINAL: CTownForeMan

So you saying you don't want the warrenty on your new 08 truck and like taking he risk of a ticket? That kits not worth it to me.

The wonderfull thing about tuners is you can take them out when there is a warranty problem and they will never find out unless you tell them.

I wish this was true, however a qualified mechanic can search the stock computer for signs of a programmer installed, even if it has been removed. They do not normally go to this trouble unless they think that the damage or warranty work is not a standard problem or malfunction of the trucks normal duties. CtownForeman, I'm not worried about warranty stuff really, a good dealer will back the warranty in most cases no matter what, and I don't know how it is in Texas, but in Mississippi they are not gonna write a ticket for black smokin...

Here in Texas they do right out tickets for black smoke, specially for large amounts of it. Remember we are dealing with ozone ALOT now days and it's getting strict. A dealer should and normally willvoid warrenty on motor work if the new exhaust dpf system is tampered with. It's become a big deal nowdays. Why do you think the government requires this stuff on all diesel's that come out after 2008 and your tractor trailer's are being bought for large amount if the blocks and frames are reuined to get them off the highways. Here soon dpf delete systems will not work what so ever. On tractor trailer trucks if something is tampered with it shuts the truck down period. Resistors don't work on these systems. Thats all a DPF delete kit is is resistors fooling the sensors. I know people paying $1,000+ for a delete kit which is all abunch of resistors that cost $.25 a piece. Get ready, this stuff is getting serious.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:48:26 PM

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Our DFP kits are just $295. Yes they are not suppose to be used on the highway. Offroad use only

. I can you one thing it does help out the fuel mileage after you take the DPf out of the system. Ford does require a turner/program to make it work. Ford claims if you do this your warrenty is gone. Even if you place the stock parts back. They say the ECM records everything on this new trucks.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:54:35 PM

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You mean like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AMkv5pKwY&feature=related

Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNPVXIGa8s&feature=related

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 10:57:00 PM

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Yes it will get better milage but will still not run as clean. Yes all new trucks remember and take down notes of what goes on with the truck that a tuner/programmer can not do anything with.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/20/2008 11:18:06 PM

TBONESGRIZZ

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flordia__redneck

quote:

ORIGINAL: FF1501

You mean like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AMkv5pKwY&feature=related

Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNPVXIGa8s&feature=related

Hahaha I love how there are people drivin by and they just keep on burnin em!

< Message edited by TBONESGRIZZ -- 7/20/2008 11:25:23 PM >

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/22/2008 3:11:35 AM

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sct definately. You will save your trans if you pull a lot too!

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/22/2008 6:41:41 PM

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where do you get the dfp kits? i have a 08 250 with intake exhaust and bullydog pmt....still gets horrible milage and is slow...

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/22/2008 6:54:32 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flordia__redneck

quote:

ORIGINAL: FF1501

You mean like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9AMkv5pKwY&feature=related

Check out this video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SNPVXIGa8s&feature=related

Man I want that red Cummins that thing sounds sweet for a diesel.

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2008 Honda Rancher ES 4x4 black
Supertrapp Mudslinger
HL EPI Clutch Kit
Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/24/2008 5:01:16 PM

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yeah the cummins is bad. It was loud.. LOUD..LOUD. But then again nothing sounds better than a diesel with exhaust.

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/24/2008 8:19:44 PM

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yeah the cummins is bad. It was loud.. LOUD..LOUD. But then again nothing sounds better than a diesel with exhaust.

Any gas V8 sounds better then any oil burner to me but some of them are ok.

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Supertrapp Mudslinger
HL EPI Clutch Kit
Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
stockish
21" Mud Sharks

http://www.myspace.com/kotakid287

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/25/2008 7:30:36 AM

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are you crazy hondaguy

nothing sweeter than a cummins with 600ish hp and 1200ish tq spooling up right before it unloads ...

and remember these are street trucks that get 15-20mpg and last 100k-200k miles ...

i'm at 170k at my hp levels ... stock head gasket ...no studs

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/27/2008 9:42:08 PM

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quote:

are you crazy hondaguy

nothing sweeter than a cummins with 600ish hp and 1200ish tq spooling up right before it unloads ...

I'm deffinately crazy! lol But not about this.

No way you can convince me that even a Cummins sounds better then this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMcfkBbZrpQ

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2008 Honda Rancher ES 4x4 black
Supertrapp Mudslinger
HL EPI Clutch Kit
Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
stockish
21" Mud Sharks

http://www.myspace.com/kotakid287

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/27/2008 9:43:20 PM

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Or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MtIOg54ak4

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2008 Honda Rancher ES 4x4 black
Supertrapp Mudslinger
HL EPI Clutch Kit
Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
stockish
21" Mud Sharks

http://www.myspace.com/kotakid287

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/27/2008 9:49:51 PM

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Or this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qQZqzsjQpw&feature=related

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2008 Honda Rancher ES 4x4 black
Supertrapp Mudslinger
HL EPI Clutch Kit
Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
stockish
21" Mud Sharks

http://www.myspace.com/kotakid287

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RE: Any Mod Experience with... - 7/29/2008 7:54:21 PM

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Deleting the DPF is technically illegal in every state. But you will only get in trouble in a few states and a good dealer wont put up a fuss. If your dealer does he obviously doesnt want your business, so take it elseware.

DPF delete pipes are just that, a pipe that deletes the filter. The rest has to be handled by a programmer on all three of the diesels.

It doesnt take much and it really wakes the truck up.

Currently there are 4 Duramaxes running 42 series Garrett turbos, Suncoast trannies, no DPF, and some wicked tuning. Two of them have twin CP3s as well. These trucks MOVE.

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