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700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/4/2008 3:25:45 PM

RIX GRIZZILLA

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Just tried the 29.5 Laws out for the first time this weekend and they are awesome. But If I am in some really sticky stuff, I just cant get the tires to really spin. I can still dig and keep moving but cant get much more than 1/4 throttle until I get out of the really sticky stuff. Then I can turn them fine. I cant drop $200 on a full HL or EPI clutch kit after dropping the $ for the Laws. I dont know if doing that whole kit is what I need. Changing the weights/rollers are way cheaper. But what weight to swap for? All or some weights? I have heard and read of swapping the 700 weights for Kodiak/Grizzly 400/450 weights. Anyone made this swap? any insight?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/7/2008 8:27:30 PM

RIX GRIZZILLA

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I know somebody out there has heard of this or tried it.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/7/2008 10:38:21 PM

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i've heard of alot of people putting in 4 450 weight.. but if im not mistakin they had clutch kits.. i have a EPI clutch kit, an im about to add 4 450 weight in mine.. i have 28'' laws..

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 8:51:33 AM

RIX GRIZZILLA

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I been hearing a few people talk about just changing the weights. Even the guy at the Yamaha Parts counter told me he had sold a few sets of weights from a Grizzly 400 to go intoa a Rhino 700.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 9:43:28 AM

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I have read quite a bit about this also, but I only have 26" Swamp foxes. I am going today and order some 450 weights (4) and try it out. Suppose to make a big difference. I was out last weekend and had to use low gear going through a river that on my last quad would do it in high no problem. Also raced a 650 V2 cat (both stock)and wasnt really happy with the outcome, I beat him but only by about a quad.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 10:31:47 AM

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I run four - 660 wts. and four - 450 wts. and mine will pull wheelies with 29.5 in low------ the rest of my clutch is stock.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 12:09:20 PM

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you can pick up a set of factory 450 weights for about $40, only change half of them out. then go to epi's website and pick yourself up a spring $20. now you have yourself a clutch kit for under $100.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 12:15:10 PM

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Hmmm, what will the spring do for it?? I only have 26" tires I am about 2-3000 ft if that makes any difference.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 2:30:08 PM

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i know you cant afford it but i think it would be better to save and buy the highlifter extreme clutch kit. it will make a bigger difference

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 3:04:44 PM

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i have the highlifter extreme clutch kit.. it made a difference but i feel with the weight's it will be even better.. just my opinon.. im ordering some 450 weight monday

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 5:54:23 PM

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I have 8 Kodiak 400 weights in my Grizzly 700, runnin' 29.5 OutLaws and it turns them with no problems. Don't waste your money on a secondary spring from EPI. The Grizzly 700 already has a stronger secondary spring. I wouldn't waste my money on a clutch kit. I got the 8 Kodiak 400 weights for $32.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 5:58:42 PM

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So for (4) 29.5x12 Outlaws what weights and secondary spring would be recomended?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 6:09:17 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Muddin_dude05

So for (4) 29.5x12 Outlaws what weights and secondary spring would be recomended?

For (4) 29.5x12x12 Outlalws, I would recommend the full clutch kit. It takes more to turn 4 12's vs 2-12's and 2-10's or (4) 10's.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 10:03:12 PM

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Order the sheeve and add all 8 2000 model 400 Kodiak weights and your good to go. May even gain some on top.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 10:22:31 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: same

Order the sheeve and add all 8 2000 model 400 Kodiak weights and your good to go. May even gain some on top.

Sheeve? Lol, I am a newby to CVT's. I understand their function etc. but where can I buy a new sheave and what will its purpose be? Got any part #'s for the Kodiak weights?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 11:22:37 PM

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quote:

I have 8 Kodiak 400 weights in my Grizzly 700, runnin' 29.5 OutLaws and it turns them with no problems. Don't waste your money on a secondary spring from EPI. The Grizzly 700 already has a stronger secondary spring. I wouldn't waste my money on a clutch kit. I got the 8 Kodiak 400 weights for $32.

I read the same thing about the spring on Dalton Industries web page. They sell their kit for $105. I bought 8 of the Grizzly 400 weights. Same part number as the Kodiak 450 weights. go figure. got all 8 plus some hand grips for $50 tax and all. I wont be able to get them installed til mid next week. I will post the results. Thanks guys.

Oh the part num for the weights is 5gh-17632-00-00.

I would like to know more about this sheave mod though.

< Message edited by RIX GRIZZILLA -- 8/8/2008 11:26:32 PM >

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Grizzly 450 clutch weights (4)
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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/8/2008 11:47:56 PM

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I wish someone would do a writeup on this..... I'm a little scared to mess with the clutch without a how to.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 12:43:02 AM

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Yeah, that would be great if someone could. Also, what's everyone's recommendation's as to the weight set-up for my grizz?(27-9.5-12 and 27-12-12)
Thanks.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:07:22 AM

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do not put sll 8 of the weights in. i put all eight in my bike at first and it was crap. it reved way high and i ost major top end. changed them out to just 4 factory 700 and 4 of the kodiak 400 weights and it ran alot better (wheelie machine). This is with 28 outlaws. I then got some 29 outlaws and lost some of the low end torque, thats when I change the secondary spring and i gained it back (wheelies in high now problem). I changed the weights on my fiance's 700 with 28 outlaws (no spring yet) and she loves how it is now a wheelie machine.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:10:33 AM

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Soooooooo.... if I go with (4) of the 450/400 weights, then, with my set-up.... I should see an increase on my bottom end??

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:12:19 AM

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for sure if you have the 700!!!

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:21:34 AM

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well, i just noticed i got a package from big brown today. it has a new epi spring in it. looks as if i wll be doing work on the ole lady's and my bike this week.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:26:06 AM

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Alright, I'll try the weight swap out. Does anybody have a step-by-step of this process??

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 1:34:19 AM

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if you go to grizzlycentral.com, there is a step by step.

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cloud work coming soon 12 inch lift next week

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 12:04:57 PM

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which is better 400 or 450 weights to put in my grizz with a HL extreme culcth kit?? i was going to order some 450 weights monday, but i see ya'll talikg about 400 weight's... an should i wait to put my bike on a dyno until after i put in my weights????

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 2:21:11 PM

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so which weights to use the 450 or 400?? by changing 4 700 stock weights out, will that all it needs?

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 2:44:14 PM

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thats what i was woundering about which weights to use 450 or 400????

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07 grizzly 700 fi

28"outlaws
2"HL lift kit
1" wheel spacers
(4) monkey axles
Ricohet skid plate
Hmf swamp series exhaust
UNI airfilter
Power Commander
HL extreme clutch kit
yamaha front bumper
2.5 warn winch
fully custom snorkel
(radiator relocation an catvos lift coming soon)

http://www.doinitdirtyoffroad.com

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 2:46:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: same

Order the sheeve and add all 8 2000 model 400 Kodiak weights and your good to go. May even gain some on top.

which sheave? I may order an EPI spring and change out half my weights. I don't know yet. I may do nothing at all.

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 2:54:15 PM

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he is talking about the fix sheave off of ebay. it has been machined to where the belt rides higher in the primary. (i think)

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700 Grizzly Ducks Unlimited
30 backs/ snorked/ rad relocate
EPI Purple Secondary Spring and Weights
HMF pipe/ optimizer
cloud work coming soon 12 inch lift next week

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RE: 700 Grizz clutch weight change - 8/9/2008 5:53:52 PM

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that would just give you more top end, not low end. Don't they also machine the slot the weights ride in, so they'll move farther out in the sheave? I know the Grizzly 700 already comes stock with a stronger secondary spring, so which EPI spring should I get to give me more low end?

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