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589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 12:56:01 AM

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Which would be the best in mud/water in the 28 inch size...I need to get a set of tires that my girlfriend can actually steer with.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 2:54:09 AM

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589's man......Lighter weight than some of the others but not all.....and they will last you forever I swear here here is a picture of mine with about 250 miles on them.....And they pull me through any kind of mud

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2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 8:05:41 AM

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I would definately rule out the 'Lites. My Grizzly with 26" 589s outperformed my friends Brute with 30" 'Lites. I know there's more than just tires that could cause that, but given the difference in tires, it speaks volumes for how badly of a tire the 'Lites are in the mud.

As far as the remaining tires, the 589s or the 'Bugs, there's another thread discussing the two. It seems to be pretty even on both sides.

You can't go wrong either way between the 589s and 'Bugs.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 10:23:10 AM

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589:heavier than bugs, wear like steal, dig to the bottom and bite, cost is high.

bugs:lighter than most (really one of the ligest "mud" tires out), wear good if you keep them off the street, stay on top of the mud and paddel through, cost is a lot lower than most.

it is hard to find them in 28''s, you can go 27's or get gators witch wear better but are a little heaver, just a little, but still weight less than 589. I have had both, 589's and bugs, and they are both a great tire, but where i live and the type of mud i ride in the bugs work better.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 10:27:10 AM

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Well I am a girl and personally I liked the mud bugs when they were on my boyfriends AC... I'm gonna get 27" mud bugs for my foreman

... they're just on back order until October

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 1:01:30 PM

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i want to get some 589's when my mudlites are worn out. (my mudlites wear out really really easy.) so i want to try a set of 589's. Do they wear really easy like my mudlites?

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 2:37:49 PM

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Heck no they wear great kinda like steel or iron....Look ay my pic above I posted that is with 250 miles on them and they still look new

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2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 2:51:27 PM

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Mud Bugs or Outlaw MST's would be two of my top choices for her.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 3:01:30 PM

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i ride alot on the road, i just dont want another crappy tire.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 3:03:36 PM

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Welll I would say 589's then I mean I do not ride alot on the road but I do some and they still wear great

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29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
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1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 3:50:40 PM

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I just called a tire place and the lady told me that the lugs on 26" mudbugs are different than the lugs on the 27" mudbugs and that the 27's wear faster... does anyone know about this?

p.s. I don't mean to steal your topic there's just so many mudbug topics already

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 3:56:59 PM

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Lol....I think the lady lied to you.....I mean why would 27's wear faster than 26's....They are the same tire basically even if the tread is slightly different they should both be made of the same tread compound

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2007 Polaris 800EFI
29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 5:28:30 PM

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it was something about the width of the tire??

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/28/2008 8:44:36 PM

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The 26" have a flatter profile, so more tire hits the ground and therefore wears better. The 27" are more rounded, so the tips of the lugs hit the ground more and take more abuse on hard pack and roads, and wear faster.
Also, the 27", for some reason, run narrow. Mine do anyways!

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/29/2008 6:29:31 PM

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Hmm I see I see.....I know most all tires measure up short from what they say......

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3 Inch Puck Lift Front
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1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 8/30/2008 10:40:02 PM

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ya i dont do alot but i do quiet a bit. i guess anything is better then what i have right now but i want something really good and i thought the 589s.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/1/2008 2:07:53 AM

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If you do some researching on this forum you will find this statement to be true. The smaller bugs 26" and down have a different lug width than the 27's and 28's and wear much better. They are also reported to be better all around in the 26" than the 28"

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/1/2008 11:06:54 PM

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Stil I think 589's are great and they will pull through alot of stuff.....never left me stranded I can say

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29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
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1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 5:28:00 PM

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mudlite is my vote

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 6:52:42 PM

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I would throw mudlite out of the vote all together they are only a little better than stock

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29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 7:37:10 PM

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i got mudlites and had 589s and friend has swamplites. Fist my friend hates his swamps and wonts mudlites. 2nd mudlite are a better trail by a little and 589s are better in mud. I would go with 589s for mud ridding and littes for trail. If you cannt make up your mind They make a tire called mudlite xtrs or some thing like that. Its a cross from mudlites and 589s. Your girlefriend sould be able to turn all of them easy.

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 7:38:43 PM

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Yea true I never thought about that the XTR's are kinda agressive

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Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
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1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 7:43:59 PM

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there more agressive than mudlites and more trail friendly than 589s

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RE: 589VSmudliteVSbugs - 9/2/2008 7:46:11 PM

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Well from experience I loved my 589's on the trail I mean we have trails here that are winding but also very muddy and steep

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29.5 Outlaws 10 Front 12 Rear
Vision Buckshot Deepdish 12X8 Rims
3 Inch Puck Lift Front
EPI 140# Rear Springs
1 Inch Rear Spacers
AAEN Mega Power Pipe
K&N
Rear Rack Extender
Rear Rack Plate From Triangle ATV
Rear Seat From Triangle ATV
Ammo Cans
Igloo Cooler

2004 Yamaha Big Bear 400 4X4 SOLD!!!
504 miles
2 inch lift
26" ITP 589's 9 in front 12 in rear
dynojet kit
K&N
HMF utility
high lifter extreme clutch kit
fully snorkele

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