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420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 8:14:50 PM

08ranch

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ok so i bought my HID kit to put on my 420 today and im lookin for some advise from some of you guys that have already done this or that can help me out. i read on here that someone else did this and used a 9006 buld and slightly modified the base of the bulb. well i have the 9006s which are quiet a bit larger than the stock bulbs but i can prolly make it work. my biggest problem/question is about my connector. the 9006 bulb has a large 2 terminal connector and the connector for the bulb is a small 3 terminal connector. is one of these extra wires for the high beams?? will i have to cut my harnesses and splice them together?? any advise is greatly appreciated

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 8:41:20 PM

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i have no answers to your question but i have a question of my own.
pics when your done?

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 8:53:17 PM

08ranch

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lol i will make sure to post pics and give any advise if i can get this figured out. i bought the set, HIDs all wires and ballests for $60. a co-worker of mine found a guy on ebay that sales them and he is pretty local to us so he picked them up lastnight. if i cant figure it out i guess i will be putting them on my tahoe but would love to have them on the bike

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08 rancher es 4x4 blk
26" itp mudlites
12" itp ss112
K&N filter
stick stoppers
2" HL lift kit
10000k HIDs

soon to come:
warn wench
snorkeled
27" mudlites poss. 28s
hmf pipe
pcIII

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 9:57:40 PM

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hey guys sorry about not posting pics, its very simple to do with a 9006 bulb,the base of the bulb wont look pretty but it fits in the housing and twists is tight, there is a slight gap that you will have on the housing to the base of the bulb but a little silicone works wonders,ive submerge mine all the time and have had no leaks or condensation whats so ever.i actually changed my 12k bulbs to 10k last week,the 12k where WAY to purple(or as my group says pink)the 10k are perfect,a arctic blue color very good looking.IMO.I do promise i will post pictures on how to modify the bulb,i will take pictures of the stock bulb VS the modified bulb and show you where to cut,only tool needed will be a dremel ,and silicone

if its done correctly and with patience ,it will turn out perfect.

will post pictures tommaro.

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 10:05:02 PM

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thanks for the response man but the biggest problem just from looking so far is the wiring. what did you do to make the different connectors work??

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26" itp mudlites
12" itp ss112
K&N filter
stick stoppers
2" HL lift kit
10000k HIDs

soon to come:
warn wench
snorkeled
27" mudlites poss. 28s
hmf pipe
pcIII

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 10:09:15 PM

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08ranch , Did you buy the actual HID kit with ballasts and bulbs?or did you just buy bulbs from an autoparts store?the hid bulb connects to the ballast connectors with no issues,then you simply tap the positive and negative wires from the ballast into the positive and negative wires from each side of your original headlight connector, use a ohm meter to find the power and negative on each side b/c both are different ,BUT you must use HIGH BEAM the low beam does not draw enough power to power up the ballast.after its all said and done you will have to lower the headlight beam with the adjustment screw so there not pointing to high.

< Message edited by lovnmud -- 8/21/2008 10:10:20 PM >

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28 inch outlaws
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Power commander III
HMF pipe
snorkle
uni filter
audiopipe
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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/21/2008 10:20:56 PM

08ranch

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yea i got the whole kit, ballasts bulbs and all. thanks thats exactly what i was wanting to know. i didnt know if i needed to cut and splice or if you found some other way to hook it up. i ask this b/c it is one of the plug n play kits not one where you have to do any splicing. thanks again

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08 rancher es 4x4 blk
26" itp mudlites
12" itp ss112
K&N filter
stick stoppers
2" HL lift kit
10000k HIDs

soon to come:
warn wench
snorkeled
27" mudlites poss. 28s
hmf pipe
pcIII

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/22/2008 5:47:38 PM

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ok guys i tried every way to take pictures of the bulb but it just keeps coming out blurry,ill keep trying ,or ill try to borrow another camera but mines pretty good also,dont know why its doing this.

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highlifter 2 inch lift kit
highlifter 2 inch wheel spacers
highlifter lift springs
10000k H.I.D kit
28 inch outlaws
highlifter xl2 alum. wheels
Power commander III
HMF pipe
snorkle
uni filter
audiopipe
other goodies......:)
______________"There is no cure"____________

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/23/2008 10:57:44 AM

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thats cool man just keep us updated

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26" itp mudlites
12" itp ss112
K&N filter
stick stoppers
2" HL lift kit
10000k HIDs

soon to come:
warn wench
snorkeled
27" mudlites poss. 28s
hmf pipe
pcIII

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/23/2008 11:04:52 PM

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yea from my understanding, you will have a wire "left over" which would be the low beams.
pics when you are done please!!

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/24/2008 9:34:39 PM

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hey lovnmud i forgot to ask but where did you mount your ballasts at?

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26" itp mudlites
12" itp ss112
K&N filter
stick stoppers
2" HL lift kit
10000k HIDs

soon to come:
warn wench
snorkeled
27" mudlites poss. 28s
hmf pipe
pcIII

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RE: 420 HIDs - 8/25/2008 6:44:09 AM

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i mounted them along the top frame rail behind the upper shock mount.its the highest point and the mud sheild blocks it from most mud.

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highlifter 2 inch lift kit
highlifter 2 inch wheel spacers
highlifter lift springs
10000k H.I.D kit
28 inch outlaws
highlifter xl2 alum. wheels
Power commander III
HMF pipe
snorkle
uni filter
audiopipe
other goodies......:)
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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/1/2008 3:58:05 PM

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For starters I didn’t read the whole thing, From my experience with HID conversion It does not matter if you hook it up on the low beam or high beam WHY???? Because the bulb is a low beam only that’s why. TOP END HID kits do sell hid bulbs that have duel filament that has both low and high in a single bulb but they are not cheap. Also if you do hook it up in the high beam circuit it will shine brighter because I THINK<<< key word here...The Ballast the squire box amplifies more in the high beam circuit so its more brighter then low beam circuit I know this first hand and done a lot of HID install. Hope this help. Also forgot to add but similar to what I wrote on top, just because you install it on the High beam circuit does not mean it will shine at a high beam level because the HID bulb is a low beam bulb not a High beam bulb so you don’t have to adjust your lamp on your ATV or vehicle.

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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/1/2008 7:56:37 PM

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well i had to adjust mine,i could see the racoons in the trees.

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highlifter 2 inch lift kit
highlifter 2 inch wheel spacers
highlifter lift springs
10000k H.I.D kit
28 inch outlaws
highlifter xl2 alum. wheels
Power commander III
HMF pipe
snorkle
uni filter
audiopipe
other goodies......:)
______________"There is no cure"____________

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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/2/2008 7:29:00 PM

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Did you ever get those pics of the bulbs to turn out right?

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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/4/2008 6:36:13 PM

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First off, HID bulbs do not have a filliment, no true hid will have one. The light from an hid bulb is generated by an electrical arc. with a GOOD quality ballast (i.e, not what is in most plug and play kits) will maintain there output with small changes in voltage. A good ballast has a microprossesor based power supply that over drives the bulb on warmup, then lowers the output to a nominal 35watts. a ballast also trys to maintain the same light output as the bulb ages.
in cars the hi/low function is done by droping a mechanical shutter out of the way allowing more light to escape from the houseing the power is still at 35 watts, some systems even move the bulb in the reflector to change the beam pattren for hi mode.
This is a pic of a spot light i converted to hid to show the inner tube where the arc operates. , I modded my center lamp with a cheap HID kit but i replaced both headlights with Hella micro DE hid projector assamblies Also for the most light avaliable go with a 4200-4300k ish lamp they are more effectent

my quad with all three running, I made a bracket that sits under the hood to hold the ballasts

this is what the hella de look like, they fit right in where the stock headlights used to live

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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/4/2008 6:59:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: HondaGuy

Did you ever get those pics of the bulbs to turn out right?

no ive tryed NUMEROUS times and it just comes out blurry, trust me ive been gettin hit with pms left and right, i think the only thing i can probably do is take a pic to Paint or my other program and photo chop it and show where to dremel down. give me a bit im gonna do it now.

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highlifter 2 inch lift kit
highlifter 2 inch wheel spacers
highlifter lift springs
10000k H.I.D kit
28 inch outlaws
highlifter xl2 alum. wheels
Power commander III
HMF pipe
snorkle
uni filter
audiopipe
other goodies......:)
______________"There is no cure"____________

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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/4/2008 8:06:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: lovnmud

quote:

ORIGINAL: HondaGuy

Did you ever get those pics of the bulbs to turn out right?

no ive tryed NUMEROUS times and it just comes out blurry, trust me ive been gettin hit with pms left and right, i think the only thing i can probably do is take a pic to Paint or my other program and photo chop it and show where to dremel down. give me a bit im gonna do it now.

Sweet, good luck.

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Supertrapp Mudslinger
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Relocated Radiator
Permacool 8" electric fan (covers the whole radiator)
12x7 ITP C Series Type 5 wheels
27in Bi/Tri Claw Magnum combo
Viper Max 3000lb winch Red Amsteel rope
Mud guard fender flares A-arm skid plates

88 Yamaha Banshee red and grey
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RE: 420 HIDs - 9/5/2008 2:19:35 AM

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I forgot to mention, avoid splicing or cutting the wires/cable that goes from the ballast and/or starter( if external )to the bulb. that cable needs to withstand the 23kv+ starting pulse.(assuming the stater is internal. if its external then the cable from the starter to bulb carries the high voltage starting pulses) at running ,the voltage is around 80 volts give or take a few. extending the length of the output wires can some times cause problems even if high voltage wire is used. it's best to keep that wire/cable stock

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