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28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 9:18:23 PM   
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thinkin bout puttin 28x9.5 laws on my rancher all i got is a cherrybomb you think i can turn em decent or should i do 27s will there be a big diff in capability?

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 9:25:41 PM   
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28s is too much for a 350 that close to stock imo, I think you have the gearing for 27" skinnies but prob not 12s. It will prob struggle a bit in the thick stuff even with 27s, thats a lot more tire then you got now. I would do a few more mods to get a little more power out of it and get 27s.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 9:28:31 PM   
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Put somes 27 11 Zillas!!  I think that is the best all around tire for a rancher.  When I had mine I would sping to **** out of them.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 10:11:34 PM   
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Well im about to put 28x10backs on mine...but i have a pipe, clutch kit, jet kit, air filter, port &polish, bigger piston, timing adjusted, snorkled and lifted. I have 27 laws with a pipe jet and air and it pulled them pretty dang good. But hopin with the new mods i will pull those backs fairly well.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 10:13:56 PM   
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i would get 27s and it may spin them decentley but if you get in the thick stuff i think it will have problems

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 10:30:58 PM   
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Well im about to put 28x10backs on mine...but i have a pipe, clutch kit, jet kit, air filter, port &polish, bigger piston, timing adjusted, snorkled and lifted. I have 27 laws with a pipe jet and air and it pulled them pretty dang good. But hopin with the new mods i will pull those backs fairly well.


What kinda terrain do you drive in 6" pea gravel?

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/24/2008 10:37:34 PM   
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I wouldn't go any bigger than 26" I had a 2006 foreman that strugled with 27" mudbugs in some types of mud. I would rather have a smaller tire that I can spin well rather than a bigger tire you can't turn when you need to. There is nothing more frustrating than being in a situation where you can't turn the wheels when there is good traction.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 11:59:43 AM   
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We have some pretty thick mud around here in southeast texas. Im goin with 28s to get more gc. I will let yall know how it does. I may have to down size but it cant hurt to try them out.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 12:21:22 PM   
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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 12:33:32 PM   
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26" is the biggest a rancher can handle

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 1:11:57 PM   
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naw man put them 28 under an let me know

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 4:26:24 PM   
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Go with the 28.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/25/2008 9:42:41 PM   
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Ive got them ordered. We will see how it does. I watched a guy on a rancher turn 29.5s with a jet kit pipe and clutch kit. He could only go in first but if he can turn them with only a few mods i know i can turn mine.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/26/2008 6:15:05 PM   
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lets see some pics when you get them mounted

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/27/2008 6:49:15 PM   
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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/27/2008 7:35:08 PM   
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26" is the biggest a rancher can handle
BULL SH!T!!!!!!!!!!


calm down moss.........if they are talking about 350's then that is an accurate statement.  remember that the 350 compared to the 420 isn't an apples to apples comparison.  i'm not saying that with a ton of motor work(not bolts ons) that it can't go bigger but that's a different story all together.  to all you guys talking about 29.5's on a rancher you need to get with the program.  making statements like that is what makes guys on the other forums make fun of honda owners.  i'm not saying don't be proud of your ride but you have to understand the limitations of your machine.  honda doesn't make/made a bike  that has any business laced up with 29.5's.  i wouldn't run them on the 420 and certainly not a 350.  but if your happy riding in water chasing shad then that might be okay for ya'.  not trying to be a ****.............just trying to add some logic to the discussion.  the amount of power loss vs. the gain in gc is really one sided, and should not be the deciding factor in the purchase.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/27/2008 8:14:23 PM   
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weekend before last they had a honda rancher 350 at duhons with 29.5" outlaws on it. he had a bbk  clutch kit jet kit pipe k&n port and poilsh and he spun them way more efficently than i thought was possible.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/27/2008 10:22:34 PM   
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Im pretty sure with the mods i have i will turn my tire fairly well....rebel has also seen a rancher on 29.s so yes it can be done.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/28/2008 7:50:44 PM   
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Does anybody have a vid of this rancher with the 29.5's because i would really like to see this.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/28/2008 8:41:21 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnJ_9DiX9dk here it is. it may not be the thickest mud around but he spins them.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/28/2008 9:59:06 PM   
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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/29/2008 12:29:30 PM   
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28s are way to big for a 350 even 27s are to big with no mods i know a guy who had a hmf slip on and jet kit with 27s on his 350 and he dynoed 7hp to the wheels and we had to pull him out of a few mud holes because the mud was to thick and he didnt have the power to turn the tires

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/29/2008 1:02:55 PM   
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28s are way to big for a 350 even 27s are to big with no mods i know a guy who had a hmf slip on and jet kit with 27s on his 350 and he dynoed 7hp to the wheels and we had to pull him out of a few mud holes because the mud was to thick and he didnt have the power to turn the tires


7 hp, that's mad power.  that's not mud in that video......................it's water with a little dirt in it.  i can go thru that with my atc 200.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/29/2008 1:07:59 PM   
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what video you talking about cause i ant said anything about a video

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/29/2008 1:10:09 PM   
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28s are way to big for a 350 even 27s are to big with no mods i know a guy who had a hmf slip on and jet kit with 27s on his 350 and he dynoed 7hp to the wheels and we had to pull him out of a few mud holes because the mud was to thick and he didnt have the power to turn the tires


7 hp, that's mad power.  that's not mud in that video......................it's water with a little dirt in it.  i can go thru that with my atc 200.


Exactly ive got a Rancher 350 just about ever power mod they make and i can turn 26'' Mud bugs really good in any kinda of mud it still bogs in thick mud  but never stops turnign them so there is no way a rancher will turn 28's in anything but water

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/29/2008 10:26:29 PM   
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what video you talking about cause i ant said anything about a video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnJ_9DiX9dk here it is. it may not be the thickest mud around but he spins them.

this video dude,  the one this cat put up a couple of posts ago.

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/30/2008 9:31:15 AM   
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well they all a better one than i have because i have 25 12  12 outlaws on mine and it struggles in really really thick mud in first if i get them turnin maybe 2nd 29.5, not gonna happen without cutting alot or something i dont know thats wack!



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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/30/2008 10:02:27 AM   
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Awhile back there was a kid who said he had a .40 overbore on a 350 pulling 29.5x12 outlaws.  He posted a pictures of him going through a hole floorboard deep with about an inch of mud in the bottom of it.  We asked him to show up to a local ride with what we knew was a hole with THICK mud.  We sat there all day and he never showed up.  When we got back on here the next week he clammed he was there and walked through it no problem.  It seems he was the only one to cross it.  I watched acouple Sp800's with 28 laws burn their belts to nothing trying to get their tires turning. 

Eventually he clammed his motor would not stay together.  This is VERY possible when running a tire that should not be there. 

Friend had a rancher 350.  Had 26x12 outlaws, 375 kit, cam, HP kit, clutch kit, spacers, douglas wheels, and a dgl locker.  I rode the bike with disappointment.  This thing wouldn't turn the tires for anything.  When I first met this person they had 28x12.5 laws all the way around it stock.  It wouldn't even climb a sand hill in 1st gear.  It had to back up the whole hill. 

Rancher 350's arn't made to turn such a tire.  Yeah yeah we know somebody saw this one bike that crossed this one hole that was full of mud and turned them great.  We have all heard the story.  Do we really know the sory on the bike?  Do we know how long this bike holds together after every ride?  Such tires but an ultimate bind on these bikes.  Not only a load on the piston but the clutches take a load so big to the point the clutches burn and Then your into the motor the whole time. 

Lets do some math here.  We are running 26 inch tires on a SRA bike.  We bump the size up to 28 inch.  How much ground clearance did we actually add?  1 inch.  What is the weight added and the strain added to the bike?  More than the motor can handle.  Is that inch benifited?  No.  Is it worth being in a hole and not being able to turn the tires over?  No, not really.  These are things people need to start thinking about when doing this stuff.  You have to think about the wear and tear people are addng by thinking they should run such big tires on small bikes. 

Southernrancher do you hve anything added besides the cherrybomb muffler?  Without proper jetting and more air intake there in not enough performance mods there for 28's.

I know people will sy I am here to start stuff and hate on people and blah blah blah.  I am stating facts. 

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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/30/2008 10:42:37 AM   
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I got a 350 rancher (in my sig)   with a locker ,  25 x 12's in the rear,   9.5's in front   In thick PB mud it wont move in 4x4.   In 2wd it will turn them very slow.
I ended up putting the 9.5's in the rear and put 25x8 mudbugs in the front and never had a problem with power.  Ive seen millions of post with people
who put bigger outlaws than 25,  who claim they can turn them fine,   I call BS on that!!



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RE: 28 laws on rancher? - 8/30/2008 10:44:09 AM   
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agreed 100% a gear reduction would make this possible but not with just simple mods .


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