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09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 1:00:39 AM

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Anyone line one up yet for a drag race yet? I haven't seen any posts on the subject. I have heard that the 800R eats up the 850 all the way through to top speed.... But I haven't viewed this in person.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 8:11:19 AM

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I haven't seen it, but I would think the 800R would win. The 08 outty is in front in the low end and loses by a hair on the top. So I would guess the 800R would tie with it off the bottom and slightly leave it at the top. My guess...

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 8:35:57 AM

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I love these post, Its allways i heard, somebody told me, my buddy. Give it time somebody wil line them up.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 9:01:34 AM

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we done it. It came down to who got the jump. the 850 will walk down the outty around 275ft. which we were on a dirt road, and traction was a big prob. Both are really fast ! the outty seemed to launch hardest and lead out , then the popo would gain quick.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 9:46:11 AM

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Anybody seen a gade 800r and 850 ,that`s the one everyone is waiting for.....

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 9:56:33 AM

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Anybody seen a gade 800r and 850 ,that`s the one everyone is waiting for.....

They aren't even the same type of bike..........

If the 800r and 850 are neck and neck, then the gade is faster.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 10:15:19 AM

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As long as th 09 Can am has the throttle update, they should walk that polaris...

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 10:47:58 AM

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Anybody seen a gade 800r and 850 ,that`s the one everyone is waiting for.....

I haven't heard of anyone waiting for that, 2 completely different quads.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 11:03:50 AM

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quote:

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Anybody seen a gade 800r and 850 ,that`s the one everyone is waiting for.....

I haven't heard of anyone waiting for that, 2 completely different quads.

Alos, 850 is 784lbs dry, Renegade is 607dry

Image an 850 that was actually faster than the renny??? that would be sick!!

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 1:15:43 PM

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Renegade is 607dry

The Gade is 710 lbs wet. (we weighed 2 of them)

Most quads gain around 50 lbs once they are full of fuel and ready to ride.

No way its 607 dry. Can am is full of BS putting that number in the manual and in their specs.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 2:12:52 PM

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Sure there different quads,so what. I raced sport quads ,RZR`s ETC. ETC. I have never been told "your quads not the same as mine so i won`t race you ".If you don`t like to that`s fine ,however others do.......

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 2:45:27 PM

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As long as th 09 Can am has the throttle update, they should walk that polaris...

I thought all 09's had the new intake?? is there something else?

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 3:11:24 PM

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As long as th 09 Can am has the throttle update, they should walk that polaris...

I thought all 09's had the new intake?? is there something else?

All of the 09's are 20% limited by the throttle screw. You have to take it out if you hadn't already.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 3:11:29 PM

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 3:36:35 PM

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that's the bigger piece of the low end power issue, but the throttle limit screws are not properly adjusted on a lot of 800R's. something i was wondering about the other day was if it is possible to open the throttle too much. i know they hook up the BUDS equipment to adjust the throttle limit screw and adjust it to 85%. does that mean that if it goes past 85%, could you lose power?

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 5:27:12 PM

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more fuel get more air

more air get more fuel

compensate for each other... but doesnt always work when you have the computer can-am does

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/4/2008 6:32:12 PM

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what i was getting at is if can-am says to adjust it to 85% for peak power, would going past that yield less power?

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/7/2008 3:26:49 PM

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TTT.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/7/2008 3:43:35 PM

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Well the POPO infomercial says they are the same in a 300'or was it 500' race so I would give the nod to the canned hams since there infomercials say they are the same. But even be side by side says they have come along ways now if there reliability is there they may have a wieener.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/7/2008 4:45:51 PM

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You tube has some races. It can go either way

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/7/2008 5:10:54 PM

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Well the POPO infomercial says they are the same in a 300'or was it 500' race

I thought that was an 08 Outlander.

The new 09 Outlander has 67 hp where the 08 only had 61.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/7/2008 9:34:38 PM

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Well the POPO infomercial says they are the same in a 300'or was it 500' race

I thought that was an 08 Outlander.

The new 09 Outlander has 67 hp where the 08 only had 61.

The 09 vs 08 is a drivers race. I'd bet an 08 will give the PoPo a better run in the 300ft race. I have know clue where BRP gets the 1 sec. claim.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/8/2008 12:47:48 AM

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Info commerical... BLAH

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 8:18:47 AM

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i just put a 2" pipe lift , spacers, and 28" zillas on my 800r . The 850 walked out 1 1/2 in a 300' race on pavement in high range. we had to do the low range in dirt in 4wd, and 45mph for the outty, 41 on the xp was top speed with the outty gettin there quicker, about 3-4 spaces out front.
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so i think both are great powerplants . And i have to add this for a friend (on a popo)!!! It takes 50 more cc's to keep up wid the outty

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 9:06:38 AM

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I think this will always be a driver's race.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 10:04:18 AM

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not so sure its driver error. when you leave on time, smash it all the way, dont spin out, keep the front down, its a good race. i have not backed my throttle screw out, its still bout a 1/4" in. should i go ahead and move it?

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 2:11:25 PM

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not so sure its driver error. when you leave on time, smash it all the way, dont spin out, keep the front down, its a good race. i have not backed my throttle screw out, its still bout a 1/4" in. should i go ahead and move it?

Most definitely. You're at 15% power loss with it in there.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 2:49:01 PM

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kratos, i read earlier a question asked about the factory setting on the screw and if pulling it back would actually take some power. I never seen an answer to that, what are your thoughts?

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 3:50:10 PM

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It has been dyno proven that pulling it out will give you the full 67hp they claim at WOT. The engine and a/f ratio has been calibrated precisely for it being pulled out. Why it's in there limiting the power, I don't know. If you want a direct link to a thread about it, just pm me. But you don't need to read that 4 page thread; trust me it's proven. You will see a difference in your machine for sure.

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RE: 09 OL 800R vs 09 Popo 850... - 11/10/2008 7:52:27 PM

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What throttle screw are we talking about here, is this on all800r `s .Do you mean on the thumb control on the handle bars?

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