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08 outlander 800 xt questions - 3/31/2008 10:17:41 PM

Matt_Mc

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I just purchased my first can am friday. I have ordered a bunch of stuff for it. Skid plates, pipe, k&N, programmer box. I have also ordered some chrome ss 112 in 14. Since they only come in 4/110 I also got some 1in wheel adapters to go from the 4/137 pattern to the 4/110 pattern. Now the problem is: that I also got me some 30 mudlight XXL's. What else do I need to get these tires on there. Will they clear? Before I ordered them I had approx 3.5 inches from the 26in factory tires to the rear fender. But I noticed this evening that the 26in factory tires don't truely measure 26 inches!

They measured around 25.25. I am starting to think they may not work. It will be a few days before I get them to find out for sure.

I have been reading a lot of the posts on here about the 2in lifts and their problems. What do I need to do?

Thanks Matt Mc

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 3/31/2008 10:21:19 PM

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 3/31/2008 10:37:54 PM

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I thought you can get the 14" 112's in 4/137 pattern? I have 29.5 outlaws on mine with no problems, so you will be fine with the 30's. Just crank your shocks up on the back and do the the pipe lift on the front. oh yah I would put a clutch kit in it to.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 3/31/2008 10:45:06 PM

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Yah, they do. You got ripped man.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 5:27:59 PM

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Itp says they don't. And so does everyone I called. They offer the ss112 in a machined version in the 4/137. But they only offer the ss112 chrome in one bolt pattern the 4/110 at this time.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 5:32:07 PM

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What exactly is the pipe lift? I don't know what your talking about.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 5:55:14 PM

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quote:

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Itp says they don't. And so does everyone I called. They offer the ss112 in a machined version in the 4/137. But they only offer the ss112 chrome in one bolt pattern the 4/110 at this time.

WHat? Look on ITP... they offer it in every bolt pattern.

SS Alloy SS112

Front

14x6

4/137

4+2

Machined w/ Black

14SS36BX

1428316404B

ALUG15BX

INCLUDED

SS Alloy SS112

Rear

14x8

4/137

5+3

Machined w/ Black

14SS37BX

1428317404B

ALUG15BX

INCLUDED

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 6:03:58 PM

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not in chrome! If I could have got them I would have. Itp sends out the ss112's and has them chrome plated. ITP is only sending 4/110 patterns to be chrome plated. And from what I could find out has never nor has any plans to have any other bolt pattern chrome plated but the 4/110.

But regardless I don't care. I am not here to argue. Nor do I care if you think I got ripped off. I got my wheels and I will be 2 in wider.

I signed up on here to get some help and meet can am folks not take crap!

I need to know about this lift crap. I need some help on what kind of lift to get that won't put my axls in a bind or break them like some of the other posts I have read about. When I see pipe lift I have no Idea what yall are talking about. Does anybody have any pics? I have seen the HL lift. And have heard of people putting rear springs on the front.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 6:12:54 PM

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pipe lift is a 1.5 inch gas coupler that you can get at lowes or home depot. 2" long and it stiffens your shocks so your bike sits level after your front shocks start to sag

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 6:20:09 PM

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cool!!! Do I need to do the front and rear or just the front?? I have the HL spring tool that I bought to change the springs on my BF750. So this would be too easy.

What will happen If I do the rear?

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 6:47:21 PM

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Only on the front. It levels off the bike so I didn't put it on the back. Also you have to watch your axles if you put it on the back. Some people have said they pop out with it on the back

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 7:48:25 PM

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I have the 2" hl lift I love it no problems and I had factory 30x10x12 mudlites but now have 14x8 itp ss108's with 30x11x14 s!lverbacks don't pay that other guy any mind alot of people get on here and skim stuff then post replys not knowing what they are talking about but there is alot of good info and some very nice people here too! I went with the stiffer springs from epi for the sag in the front

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 7:52:15 PM

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Matt my apologies. I did skim and didn't see the chrome part. I keep on forgeting they make them in chrome since I never see them. Well, sorry bout that better read more before I go running my mouth.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 8:07:09 PM

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no prob

Thanks for the info fellas. I guess I will see what they look like when they get here. I tightened the springs all the way up on the front and my quad sits level now. So if i am understanding yall right the springs are going to get weak and the pipe lift is a solution for an aging spring?

Have yall heard of any one putting rear springs on the front? I have heard of a few people doing this around here. I think they are like $29 each.

If I got a hmf Penland pipe, k and n and the hmf programmer orderd. Now I am reading that the hmf programmer is junk. Is this true? Should I sell the hmf programmer on ebay and get a power commander instead?

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 8:08:49 PM

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Another question is which clutch kit do I need to go with??

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 8:11:05 PM

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Yes, it fixes the sag.

Yes some have ran rears on front, but still wasn't as good as a pipe lift(only moderate gains).

Power Commander is what everyone likes to run and you can get pre-programmed maps incase you don't have access to a dyno.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 9:18:39 PM

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Power commander is the best. You can get accessories for it, maps and lotsa support. I often wonder if power commander builds all those other programmers, private label. They look really close on the outside, plus they way they are set up is similar too.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 9:37:49 PM

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I put the pipe lift because it was $6. Its a quick fix but in the end, they will sag more but not as bad(1st hand experince). Now as for as the pipe, air filter, programmer and clutch kit you just opened a big can of worms. Everyone has their own views on these. I searched many threads and talked to many people and thats how I figured my mods.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/1/2008 9:40:47 PM

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Dalton Clutch Kit!!!!!!!!!!! With the big Tires dont use the rivits. I cant keep my Bike on the ground with 30' Mudzillas. It really give you that SNAP back

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/2/2008 12:35:56 PM

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quote:

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Have yall heard of any one putting rear springs on the front? I have heard of a few people doing this around here. I think they are like $29 each.

If I got a hmf Penland pipe, k and n and the hmf programmer orderd. Now I am reading that the hmf programmer is junk. Is this true? Should I sell the hmf programmer on ebay and get a power commander instead?

The rear springs on the front was a fix for the XT models, not the base models. The XT's used a different spring set up on the front. The XT's used 2 springs and the lower short spring on the front many times, the coils were touching right off the showroom floor. If you look at your rear springs it will have two seperate springs, this lower spring on the rear is what guys were getting and replacing the lower spring on the front with. Yours, I am guessing is a base model and will not have the 2 seperate springs on the front. As far as the programmer is concered, Dobeck manufactures the HMF optimizer and markets this same model under several different names. The power commander is completely different and IMO much better. The HMF programmer you can only richen the mixture, which is fine if you are running lean but if you are already running rich, the optimizer is not going to help, if anything it will make matters worse. The power commander is capable of adding or taking away fuel so you can remedy either a lean or a rich condition. In my case, without a programmer I was already pretty rich, to the point I was loosing power, that is why I opted for the power commander. Power commander website has a few maps you can download for free and from my experience, was pretty close, to get it dialed in you will have to take it and have it tuned. trying to tune these machines with a programmer IMO simply does not work and the power commanders mapping program is just to complicated to even try unless you have the proper tuning equipment.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/2/2008 4:44:57 PM

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I have a 08 800 XT and it has single springs front and back...are you thinking of the max?

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/2/2008 7:44:37 PM

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mine is an xt and it has single springs also..

I got the 30 ML and the 14 in chrome 112's in today now I am just waiting on my spacer/adapters. I mocked up one on the rear today and it looks like I am gong to have to trim the black floor board lip. Even if it had a 2in lift I still think I would have to trim it. Is this what can am folks normally have to do when adding 30 xxl Mudlites?????????????

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/2/2008 10:43:16 PM

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Sorry about that, I forgot that they did away with the 2 springs on the front, I didn't realize they did that on the rear also. This was on the 06 and 07 XTs, both MAX and std versions.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/3/2008 8:55:42 PM

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I mocked up one on the rear yesterday and it looks like I am gong to have to trim the black floor board lip. Even if it had a 2in lift I still think I would have to trim it. Is this what can am folks normally have to do when adding 30 xxl Mudlites?????????????

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/3/2008 9:18:37 PM

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Did anyone have any problems with the axles with the 2" HL lift? I have 27" swamplites on ss114 14" rims and dont want to cause any other problems.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 4/3/2008 10:26:45 PM

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i have the 2" HL lift with 28" laws and the only time i had axle probs so for was pulling a 650 cat bout half a mile through sum very nasty stuff and when i git by the entrance to the park i hit a tree root in bout a 2' hole and snaped the front left, but i dont think i woulda ever had this prob if i wasnt pulling b/c i putt that bike through **** before and after , hope this helps

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 10/10/2008 2:12:58 PM

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git yer heat gun.

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RE: 08 outlander 800 xt questions - 10/10/2008 3:19:07 PM

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im sure hes fixed it by now. this post is over 6 months old.

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